{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/iiif/2n4zg6gm1z/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Roy McCoy oral history, 1996 August 12"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/008/original/peabody-institute.logo.large.horizontal.blue.cropped.png?1549570058","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eRoy McCoy (1920-2001) began his musical career as a member of the Afro-American Drum and Bugle Corp. He studied with Clarence \"Babe\" Bright and A. Jack Thomas. He joined Sammy Louis's Band at the Ritz on Pennsylvania Aveue, where his towering height and size 14 shoes earned him the nickname \"Tanglefoot.\" By 1937 he was a member of the house band at the Royal Theater. In 1942 he joined Lionel Hampton's band, with whom he toured and recorded. After a year on the road, McCoy returned to Baltimore, leading his own band at the Club Orleans. He also performed with the Rivers Chambers Orchestra. A gifted photographer, he took many pictures of his friends and associates in the Baltimore musical scene. He donated his collection to the Peabody Institute in 1998. He continued to perform until the time of his death.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eElizabeth Schaaf interviews McCoy about his career and the jazz scene in Baltimore. McCoy plays a recording of him performing with the Michael Raitzyk band.\u003c/p\u003e (Abstract)","\u003cp\u003ePoor audio quality and very low levels present on source media.\u003c/p\u003e (physical description)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1996-08-12 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["McCoy, Roy, 1920-2001 (Interviewee)","Schaaf, Elizabeth M. (Interviewer)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English (Primary)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["audio/mp3"]}},{"label":{"en":["Publisher"]},"value":{"en":["Peabody Institute of the Johns Hopkins University"]}},{"label":{"en":["Rights Statement"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe collection is open for use. Contact peabodyarchives@lists.jhu.edu for more information.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},{"label":{"en":["Source Metadata URI"]},"value":{"en":["https://aspace.library.jhu.edu/repositories/4/archival_objects/215376"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eRoy McCoy (1920-2001) began his musical career as a member of the Afro-American Drum and Bugle Corp. He studied with Clarence \"Babe\" Bright and A. Jack Thomas. He joined Sammy Louis's Band at the Ritz on Pennsylvania Aveue, where his towering height and size 14 shoes earned him the nickname \"Tanglefoot.\" By 1937 he was a member of the house band at the Royal Theater. In 1942 he joined Lionel Hampton's band, with whom he toured and recorded. After a year on the road, McCoy returned to Baltimore, leading his own band at the Club Orleans. He also performed with the Rivers Chambers Orchestra. A gifted photographer, he took many pictures of his friends and associates in the Baltimore musical scene. He donated his collection to the Peabody Institute in 1998. He continued to perform until the time of his death.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eElizabeth Schaaf interviews McCoy about his career and the jazz scene in Baltimore. McCoy plays a recording of him performing with the Michael Raitzyk band.\u003c/p\u003e","\u003cp\u003ePoor audio quality and very low levels present on source media.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe collection is open for use. Contact peabodyarchives@lists.jhu.edu for more information.\u003c/p\u003e"]}},"provider":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Peabody Institute of the Johns Hopkins University"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Peabody Institute of the Johns Hopkins University"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/008/original/peabody-institute.logo.large.horizontal.blue.cropped.png?1549570058","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/117/456/small/McCoy_Roy_photoshop.jpg?1651083018","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 2 - pims0091_McCoyRoy-1_01edited.mp3"]},"duration":3005.10041,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/117/456/small/McCoy_Roy_photoshop.jpg?1651083018","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-peabody.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/117/456/original/pims0091_McCoyRoy-1_01edited.mp3?1624270913","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3005.10041,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["McCoyRoySAS_1_OHMS_20220608 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ELIZABETH SCHAAF: Were you born and raised in Baltimore?\n\nROY McCOY: No, I was born in Virginia.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: When did you come to Baltimore?\n\nROY McCOY: When I was about ten years old. I don't tell nobody that. If you do\nthat, you have to tell them where you come from and where you lived.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: If you've been here since you were ten years old, that's close enough.\n\nROY McCOY: I thought it was time to find something to do. I started to look for\nanother school so I could find one where I could learn some music. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what I\nreally wanted to do. I found a school where I could learn a trade. This was on\nPreston Street, between Druid Hill Avenue and Preston. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=60.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Davis School, I think was\nthe name of it. They had shop, woodwork and metal work. Before that, I had a\nchance to get in to the Afro-American Drum and Bugle Corps. I was able to get in\nthere because my friend [William Harris] sold papers. I didn't sell papers. I\nwent 'round with him so I could get in. There was an old German guy, a cornet\nplayer, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=120.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he taught all these kids how to play. We got around real good in\nthat band. We had parades. That was in about 1933. That's when I first started playing.\n\nI got a chance to go to the Royal Theatre and saw Louis Armstrong playing his\nhorn. It was just shining and the notes were just coming out and I thought,\n\"this is what I'm going to do.\" I decided I had to get me a trumpet. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=180.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My mother\nand father couldn't give me a horn so I started selling papers for a while on\nHoward Street and Mulberry...no...on Franklin. I used to get on the street car\nand ride up to Eutaw Street and get off. I really wanted that trumpet. I saved\nevery penny I could get hold of. I took it home and throwed it in this jar.\nFinally, I saw this trumpet in the window [of a pawn shop on Eutaw Street] for\n$14. I took $2 in there and put it on the trumpet.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=240.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was pretty excited about that, my first trumpet. I got a couple lessons (they\ncost me about a dollar or a dollar and a half) from a man named Babe Wright.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did he teach you in his home?\n\nROY McCOY: Yes, in his home. He played in Bubby Johnson's Big Band. I had a\ncouple lessons with him.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: That was a great band.\n\nROY McCOY: You've heard about them? It was a real good dance band. They played\ndances and shows at the Royal Theatre. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=300.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, I got to trying to play. I don't\nremember how I got hooked up with the Ritz Club. I went there first. It was on\nPennsylvania Avenue and Dolphin Street.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: There was the club that people called \"the barn\" because it\nwas so big.\n\nROY McCOY: It was a big club. I don't remember it being called the barn. I was\ntoo busy trying to figure out how to play.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you started out at the Ritz. You must have been really good.\n\nROY McCOY: No, I just got a break. I was just starting to play. They were\nshowing me how to play this horn. I just wanted to make people happy. I'm still\ntrying to make people happy...to get a smile...you've got a good one. That's the\nbest thing I can give you!\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=360.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I was going there. Some of the notes I couldn't play. I started going for an\n\"A\" and on the trumpet you play A with the first and second fingers. I was\nreally using my first and second fingers expecting an A to come out...and a G\nwould come out. The fellow next to me didn't like that because I was supposed to\nplay the A. Anyway, to make the story short, he left and another fellow came in.\nHe was a clarinet player [Wilton Crawley]. He would do all kinds of tricks with\nhis clarinet. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=420.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He'd turn to me and say, \"you got to play that horn...Play It!\" I\nwas by myself then. \"Play that horn...play that horn!\" So, I played. That was\nabout March. Now in May they decided that they were going on the road. So I\ndecided I was going to stick with this and keep on going. We played for a\ncarnival. We used to dance on the stage. We'd go around front and play this\nmusic for a lot of people and they'd come up and do that dancing. Then we'd go\nback inside like we're playing the show and the people would come in. Then, we'd\ngo out again if we didn't have enough people in there. We called that\n\"ballyhoo.\" We'd do this the whole day to get the show going. Finally we'd have\nenough people in there to start the show.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=480.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is the name of the first band that you played first?\n\nROY McCOY: That was Sammy Louis' Band and show too.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where did Sammy Louis come from?\n\nROY McCOY: I don't know. He was at the Ritz when I came around. He was there all\nthe time. I started talking to the musicians. I don't even remember how I got\ninto this thing. Then I went out on the road with them.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where did you all go?\n\nROY McCOY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=540.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We went to High Point, North Carolina, to start off and then we\nplayed small towns up through Pennsylvania. I remember the horseshoe curve that\nthe train took. I remember riding that train.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you toured on the train?\n\nROY McCOY: No, what happened...we had a bus and I found out that I could ride\neasier and better on the train if I did something else, like some other kind of\nwork. I could get on the train and ride and sleep and everything else. I had a\ntent (we played outside shows - that's with the carnival). I could make my way\nof living that way without getting rooms. I could go different places. This way\nI had it made. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=600.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'd get in on Sunday and you'd stay over on Sunday night and\nthen Monday we'd unload all this stuff on the fairground. So on Monday I was\nalways ready to go to work. I liked that better. I could take my little tent and\nall the junk I had. It was exciting...like camping.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=660.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What a great solution!\n\nROY McCOY: It was beautiful for me. It was like camping...I was outside. I don't\nremember if I cooked or not. I had a cot. I could put all that stuff on the\ntrain so there was no big problem. One day, we were up in Pennsylvania\nsomewhere, and they came through this town up on a big mountain. The bus was\ncoming down and the brakes failed on the bus. They came all through the town\nwithout running into anything and got all the way through without stopping. I\nwas glad I wasn't on there. I'll never forget that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=720.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody was really shook\nup. I was glad I wasn't on the bus. That tent helped out a lot. I was a young\nkid - only sixteen. Food was the only thing I had to buy so I could save my\nmoney. I was walking around with a pocket full of money. It was exciting for me.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you were already on the road when you were sixteen?\n\nROY McCOY: Sixteen. Yes.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: How long did you study trumpet before you got work?\n\nROY McCOY: Let's see. What happened with the horn, I practiced and studied my\nnotes. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=780.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't have manuscript paper to write notes out. I didn't have a book.\nI wrote just on a piece of paper and drew lines on it and made my own manuscript\npaper. I put the names of the notes on there so I could memorize them. I kept\nworking on it until I got it pretty good. Then, my grandfather used to play an\nalto horn. What I could do, I could take my bugle from the Afro-American Band,\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=840.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and take the slide out and then take the slide out from the Alto horn, and I had\nthe keys. Since I had the keys I could play all the notes. So I worked on that.\nThen, after I was doing that, I 'd study, practicing hard every day. I wanted to\nplay. It was my dream. I worked with it and, let's see, I took lessons about\nthree months or something like that. Then, when I came back I studied really\nhard. I only stayed out for about three or four months. My teacher said, \"You're\ngoing too fast for me. You are ready for some better teaching.\"\n\nSo there was this gentleman named A. Jack Thomas. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=900.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He said \"I'm going to send you\naround to A. Jack Thomas because he is a good musician and he'll teach you all\nthe stuff.\" That's where I went. I started studying all kinds of exercises,\nplaying horn, and then I got into theory and harmony and counterpoint. This I've\nnever done a whole lot with yet. So he came in there. By that time some of the\nguys -- I think Babe Wright -- decided to get out of the band because he could\nwork with Rivers Chambers Group and make better money than he could with the\nother band. Of course, anything I made was always all right for me. But at the\ntime, when I came back from the road the first time, right away I got a job in\nanother nightclub. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=960.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was \"High Hat\" out in East Baltimore. This is where I\nplayed with Billie Holiday. She would come in and sing with us. Anybody could.\nThey had a good time. We'd come in and call it jamming. That's when she'd come\nin and jam and some of the guys would come in with their horns.\n\nNow like years ago, there was clubs all along Pennsylvania Avenue. It was like\nthat in the '40s. They had dance bands. We'd go from one club to the other\nplaying our horns. That's where you could learn better playing.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You could just go in and sit in with the bands?\n\nROY McCOY: Yes. That's what made me go because I kept on working. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1020.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At the same\ntime, I was going to rehearsals with Charlie Gwynn's concert band. He had\nrehearsals on Monday night up on Druid Hill Avenue [and] Robert Street I think\nit was. He had all the makings of a concert band. In later years he had the\nconcert band for the city. At this time he just had a rehearsal band. In the\nrehearsal band you'd run over a lot of stuff that you'd play in later years.\nThat pushed you ahead so you'd be ready for it when you got into it. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1080.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what\nhappened with me.\n\nI played at the High Hat (I don't know how many months) but it wasn't long. Then\nBabe Wright left Bubby Johnson's band. I wasn't good enough to play first, but I\ncould play second and third and I could solo.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What instrument did Wright play?\n\nROY McCOY: Trumpet.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What about Mr. Gwynn?\n\nROY McCOY: I think he played the baritone.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: To back up a little but, what was Mr. Thomas like? He sounds\nlike an amazing man.\n\nROY McCOY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1140.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was. He was real good. In fact, I would like to find someone like\nthat now. I'd go to him. He was the first black man I know of that led an army\nband. I was going to him when he was writing this symphony. He said, \"see, I'm\nwriting this for the Symphony and I'm going to direct it.\" I said, \"Yeah?\"\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You were talking to him when he was writing that piece.\n\nROY McCOY: That was pretty exciting to know that he could do that and that\nprobably I could be able to do that one day. But I never wanted to go into\nsymphony and concert writing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1200.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I wanted to play jazz, which you have to turn\naround. It's the same chords, but you have to modify it, with extra notes and\nthey've got to evolve in just the right way. I'd struggle. I was still trying to\nfigure out how to get them chords together.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I was just so impressed with Mr. Thomas and the piece of music\nthat you saw being written for that performance is in the Archives at Peabody.\nWe didn't know we had it for years. It was given to Peabody and put into a box\nwith compositions by Peabody faculty members. They were never catalogued and\nthen they were forgotten.\n\nROY McCOY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1260.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"See that's what happens to music by black musicians. It gets lost. It\nwas one of those things -- aw, that ain't nothing because look who wrote it.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I've had a hard time tracking down music by black musicians. I\nhaven't been able to find any of the music written by W. Llewelyn Wilson.\n\nROY McCOY: Nobody cares or wants it.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I was heartsick.\n\nROY McCOY: No need to be heartsick. That is the way it was supposed to be. It\nhad to be that way to get to where we are now. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1320.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't see it the way a lot of\npeople do.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: An awful lot of wonderful music got lost and it is such a\ncrime. For someone who writes music, that's their life...that's what they have\nto give and it is what you hope will be left behind.\n\nROY McCOY: Thomas wrote all the parts by hand.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: He wrote another piece called Pastoral and Mirage, based on a\npoem that he wrote. The poem that he wrote was tucked inside the score. It is\nall there. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1380.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1440.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"copied all the music to make sure it wouldn't get lost. He was such\nan important musician and taught so many wonderful people.\n\nROY McCOY: I don't call myself good yet.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Were you studying at his house?\n\nROY McCOY: He had a Conservatory. He was teaching in New York. Did you hear\nabout that?\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yes, indeed.\n\nROY McCOY: He would come down...I think it was Thursday, Friday, and Saturday\nthat he'd be here and Sunday he'd go back. I'm glad you found that music. I\nwondered what had happened to it. I don't even know if his wife is still around.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1500.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think so. I'm not sure, but someone told me that she'd\npassed in the last few years.\n\nROY McCOY: Everybody's time comes after while.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I'm sorry that I couldn't have had a chance to meet her and\ntell her. He just so impressed me. He worked with some of the finest people in\nmusic. He studied in Paris, with [Walter] Damrosch,\n\nROY McCOY: And [Vincent] Persichetti... He [Thomas] would come to our band. He\nwould start off and count off. Every note that you were supposed to play he had\nit there on the stick. You just looked at him and you'd say, yes...that's it!\nMan, that guy's something! He plays the thing and the band would do anything he wanted.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1560.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Discussion ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1620.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1680.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"improvisation and the similarities between early music and jazz]\n\nROY McCOY: Sings an example of a straight tune and then follows it with a lively improvisation.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: How long were you with Mr. Thomas?\n\nROY McCOY: I guess three or four years. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1740.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can't think of the name of the school\nhe had.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: The Aeolian School of Music?\n\nROY McCOY: No, the school for G.I.s.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1800.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Discussion ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1860.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Jones' master's thesis on A. Jack Thomas]\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What other clubs did you play in? Where is the High Hat?\n\nROY McCOY: The street is torn down now. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1920.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1980.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the High Hat I played with Bubby\nJohnson's Band. He played at dances and at the Royal Theatre for stage shows.\nThat's where I played for the original Ink Spots -- \"If I Didn't Care.\" We also\nplayed for performances in the pit. They had shows that they had colored and\nwhite groups -- they called them black and white shows. Whatever type of music\nthey were playing -- like German music, Italian music. We had all the comedians.\nI played for Open the Door Richard, Buck and Bubbles, Dusty Fletcher, Pig Meat Markham.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2040.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who was leading the orchestra?\n\nROY McCOY: Bubby Johnson. Now this was the first time I ever played a solo in\nfront of Count Basie's Big Band. We always played the opening song or number and\nthis day, Count Basie was in town and all his band members came right down to\nthe front row and sat down. I looked out there...I was playing a song by Duke\nEllington, \"Boy Meets Horn,\" which is all trumpet. They throwed me out front.\nWhen the curtains opened up, there's Count Basie's Band! I had to play, there\nwasn't no getting out of it, it was the first thing on the show. I played real\ngood. That's been over sixty years ago...somewhere back there -- '39. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2100.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You had to improvise.\n\nOn Sundays I played with the Union Baptist Sunday School Orchestra led by James\nYoung. He played violin. See, all this keeps me going. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2160.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I never stopped.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What ever happened to James Young?\n\nROY McCOY: I don't know. He went over to Enon Church in West Baltimore and then\nhe left town and I didn't see him any more. He was nice.\n\nIn 1939 I got hooked up with a nine piece band called the Harlem Dictators. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2220.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We\nplayed at Club Orleans on Gay Street in around 1940, 1941 and 1942. Duke\nEllington came over and sat in with our group and played with us. Benny Carter,\na powerful arranger from California, was playing with his band at the Royal. He\ncame to the club and asked me if I was ready to go with his band. Every time I\nwould see him he would as \"are you ready to go with my band?\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2280.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He'd remember me.\nHe say \"how's Tanglefoot?\"\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: How did you get that nickname?\n\nROY McCOY: That's another long story. In 1934 or 1935 Mickey Mouse had a horse\nthat had long legs. I've got a picture of him. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2340.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everybody said \"you run just like\nTanglefoot. We're going to name you Tanglefoot.\" That was Tanglefoot. [looking\nat the picture of Mickey Mouse and Tanglefoot] Look at those feet! I've got feet\n- I wear a fourteen.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where were you living?\n\nROY McCOY: I lived on Madison Avenue, 915 Madison Avenue. Everybody in the block\nknew when I was home because I had the horn blowing all day. [Mr. McCoy sings\nscales] As much as I hate to practice now -- I know how bad it sounds. You see,\nhave to keep playing those notes. [demonstrates octave leaps] A lady lived down\nunderneath said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2400.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"Roy, all I hear is stomp...deedle deedle da...don't you ever\nget tired?\" I said, \"naw...I got to get it.\" So it paid off. You see all this\ntime I'm still playing with the City Park Band with Mr. [Eugene] Prettyman.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: When did you start playing in the Park band?\n\nROY McCOY: It must have been about 1938. Then later, Mr. Irvine had the band. I\nwas able to play solo. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2460.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mr. Prettyman also had the Maryland State Guard band.\nThat was around 1938 or 1939. He also had the Elks Marching Band.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I knew about the Elks band but I didn't know about the\nMaryland State Guard.\n\nROY McCOY: I had a big experience with that. We went to Camp Meade there came a\nday when we had to pass in review. There was only one trumpet. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2520.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When a band\nmarches, you need three or four trumpets playing because when you pass in review\nyou've got to keep the music going and before you get to the review you've got\nto play something. So I had to figure out how to do that with only one trumpet\nbecause I was the trumpet. I figured it out. I played the whole thing all the\nway down. I played some and then, every chance you get you take the horn away\nfrom your lips. If you keep it here [on your lips] the blood doesn't get a\nchance to circulate and then you get\n\ntired. So, you play a while, then every chance you get, cut her loose. Instead\nof holding the note four beats, you cut it to one. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2580.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There have been times when\nI've had to play a real high note on the number that we'd be playing and I\nthink, Lord, I don't feel I can do this. You say, Lord, give me strength. I'd be\ndown on the end of the stage, up high, and I'd play the note and pretend I was\ngoing to fall off the stage. It would crack them up. I would get my laughs.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You have to be half musician and half showman.\n\nROY McCOY: That's what happens with the band. You can just play. If you don't\nshow them anything, they'll think it's just coming out of the wall. A lot of\nguys just stand up and play a whole lot of notes. You've got to be doing something!\n\nSo I was playing with Irving. Then, one week, I think it was in 1942, Lionel\nHampton was playing at the Royal Theatre and I saw Cat Anderson. I said, \"what\nare you all doing?\" He said, \"we're doing fine.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2640.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I said \"what's happening in the\nband, you need someone?\" He said, \"why don't you come in and see us?\" because\nJoe Newman was getting ready to go into the service (this was during wartime). I\nwent down - I don't know why, I never thought I played that good. I guess I must\nhave been better than I thought I was. I used to play all the leads. I played\nthe solos. Sometimes Gene Walker would have me play -- I'd play the whole show\nand then he'd put me on the solo at the end when you're tired. You think \"I'm\ngoing to make it.\" I look at some of that music today and think, \"did I play\nthat?\" See, when you're young...and I had the idea that I wanted to play and\nthat I wanted to be good. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2700.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I kept on trying to be good. I made it.\n\nSo, I'm touring with Lionel Hampton now. We were out there for nine months. We\nwere in New York. We played for the Mills Brothers, for Buck and Bubbles. While\nI'm out there, I knew I could solo some. Right after this was when I decided to\nleave. We had been laid off. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2760.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were supposed to go into the Capital Theatre but\nthe show that was already playing was so good that they held it over two more\nweeks. We didn't have no jobs and that drained all our money. I didn't have but\na little change in my pocket. I didn't have enough money to send my wife an\nanniversary card. Everybody I saw said \"don't come back to Baltimore.\" So that's\nwhen I decided to come back. After we went to the Capital Theatre, we had bought\nuniforms and we had to pay for them. She wanted her money right away.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2820.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/transcript/38436/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We played the Apollo before we went to the Capital. We made pretty good money there.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So what made you decide to come back to Baltimore?\n\nROY McCOY: Well, that layoff and she was greedy, she wanted her money right away. We had other bills...so I said, I want to get off. It was like all the time I was there, I wanted to play a solo. I'd say, Hamp, I'd like to play a solo. This went on a week or so. Finally, one day, he call me \"Gate\", he said, \"come on down and play one, Gate.\" I go down --\n\n[END OF PART ONE]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2880.0,2940.0"}]},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Roy McCoy oral history, 1996 August 12 06-14-2022 17:49 [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Beginning his music career ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=28.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McCoy describes how he came to play the trumpet and his first gigs at the Ritz and on tour. 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Jack Thomas. McCoy also discusses the work he had playing in various nightclubs, including occasional jam sessions with Billie Holiday. ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=823.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ELIZABETH SCHAAF: How long did you study trumpet before you got work?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=823.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A. Jack Thomas","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1192.0,1936.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McCoy discusses the life and work of Black composer, A. Jack Thomas. ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1192.0,1936.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ELIZABETH SCHAAF: To back up a little but, what was Mr. Thomas like? He sounds like an amazing man.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1192.0,1936.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"More clubs and venues / the Maryland State Guard Band","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1936.0,2737.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McCoy describes other venues and bands he performed with over the years. McCoy also discusses some of his experiences with the Maryland State Guard band. ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1936.0,2737.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ELIZABETH SCHAAF: What other clubs did you play in? Where is the High Hat? ROY McCOY: The street is torn down now.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=1936.0,2737.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Touring with Lionel Hampton","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2737.0,3005.10041"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McCoy describes how he came to tour with Lionel Hampton after his encounter with Cat Anderson at the Royal Theatre, as well as some of his experiences on tour. ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2737.0,3005.10041"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456/index/51751/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROY McCOY: ...So I was playing with Irving. Then, one week, I think it was in 1942, Lionel Hampton was playing at the Royal Theatre and I saw Cat Anderson.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117456#t=2737.0,3005.10041"}]}]},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - pims0091_McCoyRoy-1_02edited.mp3"]},"duration":3006.09306,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/117/457/small/McCoy_Roy_photoshop.jpg?1651083032","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-peabody.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/117/457/original/pims0091_McCoyRoy-1_02edited.mp3?1624270915","type":"Audio","format":"audio/mpeg","duration":3006.09306,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["McCoyRoySAS_2_OHMS_20220608 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ROY McCOY: -- and started playing. I played,\nfiguring maybe two choruses would be enough. I'm playing all kinds of stuff and\nthen he says, \"play another one.\" I do another, figuring this is going to be it\nand give it all I've got and then he says \"play another one.\" This time I was\nwrung out but I played it. Well, he saw I had showmanship so he had me out there\nwith Buckner, the piano player, and we would do a little funny thing, like a dance.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you know, being at home, I could make some money and have some and do\nsomething. Out there [when the band was off] I had no money and couldn't do\nanything. I knew where I was going to eat at home. I knew where I was going to\nsleep. But out there, I didn't know where I was going to get money.\n\nI almost missed the train one day. Boy, if I'd missed that train I'd been in a\nworld of trouble. Well, they have parties for you. We played in Annapolis and\nthey had refreshments for us when we got off and I'm sitting around there\ntalking and talking because I don't drink. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=60.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"First thing you know, everybody is\ngone. I said, \"where is everybody?\" They said \"they've gone to the train.\" I ran\ndown there and caught it just before it was beginning to pull out. I decided\nthat I wasn't going to do that anymore. It is a rough life out there.\n\nI feel good that I came home. I got a little bit of a house, a little bit of a\ncar. I play some things when I want. I've got a lot of hobbies. I like to sew\nand cook. I made this jacket. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=120.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I like to sketch. With all these things, I've\nalways got something going on.\n\nTouring is hard. The reason a lot of people get hooked up on dope is that they\npush too hard. They have to play on the road one night after another. We played\nin New York, we went down to Norfolk and got there the next morning. We had a\n10:00 o'clock. We got there about 9:00 a.m. We warmed our horns up and get on\nthe stage and there is a broadcast. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=180.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the life. It's glamorous because you\nfigure you're playing with big. But when are you going to get rich? You don't\nget rich. You make a recording, you write a song, they steal your song. Joe\nMorris, he was with the band. Since then he wrote some arrangements and they\nwere recorded. I found the music on a recording and played it about a month ago.\nIt's got Joe Morris on it but Lionel Hampton's name is on it as the owner. So he\nrecorded it and Lionel Hampton is getting the royalties from it.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=240.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So what did you do when you came back?\n\nROY McCOY: I went back to Club Orleans in East Baltimore. I was in charge of the\ngroup. We had saxophone, drums, piano, and guitar. William Makell did the\nwriting for us. He was with Lionel Hampton too. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=300.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He started playing single notes\nand melodies on guitar. He had the parts on his guitar like another horn. The\ntrumpet would play the lead and he would play the bottom part.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: How long did you stay at Club Orleans?\n\nROY McCOY: I don't know for sure, about two years. At that time I came back and\ngot hooked up with Rivers Chambers. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=360.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He did all the society work. This group, you\nhad to know all the late tunes, the show tunes and the old tunes. They ask you\nfor all kinds of tunes and expect you to play them. So these people that Rivers\nhad to play most of those things, so I had to learn how to play them and then\nyou don't use your music. Most of the time you are walking around and they'd\ncome up to a table and ask you \"what's your favorite song? what song do you\nlike? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=420.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they'd say \"Stardust\" or \"Back Home in Indiana,\" and we'd play it.\nThey all read music but they didn't have to. It was the type of work they were\ndoing. It was like an act. All they'd have to do is just play it. It was a\nlesson, too. With music, you just don't look at it, you have to hear it so you\nknow what the music is telling you.\n\nDo you remember Buster Brown? ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=480.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tee Loggins? Jack - they called him \"Squeezebox.\"\n\nWell, you had to have all that stuff in your head. I got so I could play that\nstuff and they paid good money. The thing about it, you never know where you\nwere going to play. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=540.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One time I was told I was going out on a small job - only an\nhour and a half or two hours. My mother was going to fix me some kind of steak\nor something real good that I was going to eat that night. I said, \"Mother,\nthere's no need to be eating. I'll just go and play and I'll be back in about an\nhour.\" So the time comes for the guy to pick me up, he blows his horn and I go\nout and jump in the car. He says, \"We're going to Delaware.\" I said, \"I thought\nwe were supposed to go downtown.\" He said, \"no, we had to change it.\" They\ndidn't tell me. We get up there and we had to wait in the kitchen. I'm hungry\nlike mad. I told the head man that I was hungry and said to him \"I'll buy some\nfood. I'm hungry.\" \"Can't serve you none.\" I said, \"what if they bring back some\nfood, can I have some of that?\" He said \"no...you can't eat in here.\" I said,\n\"well, that's all right.\" I was already in the kitchen and I had money in my\npocket. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=600.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got over it. I forgave them. I've seen times like that. You'd have\nmoney and you just couldn't eat. I remember playing with Lionel Hampton in one\nof those small towns. Lady said, you can eat in the kitchen but you can't eat in\nthe front, being colored, you know. I said, \"I'll eat in the kitchen because I'm\nhungry.\" Some of the people that I worked with said \"if you can't eat in the\nfront, don't eat in here.\" I was hungry. I like the kitchen because that's where\nyou get the best things.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=660.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's life. It had to be like that to get to where I am now. I had to learn\nthat. That could happen to me. It could happen to anybody. I'm happy I learned\nthat. Now when I see somebody that's hungry, I know how it is. I had the money\nto get something to eat and I couldn't. I've seen a lot of people down on the\nBlock, when I was down there, going hungry. I'd say, 'you're hungry - come along\nand I'll get you something to eat.\" I'd go in the restaurant and everybody would\nlook at me like \"Are you crazy? Why are you buying him food?\" I'd say, well,\nhe's hungry. As long as he wasn't going to buy something to drink.\n\nDid I tell you I was on the Block? Did I get to that story?\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: No.\n\nROY McCOY: Well, we're coming into that now. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=720.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got a job working on the Block.\nThis was something new to me. I was playing at the Royal Theatre and I got\nsomebody to take the third show -- the fourth show. I'd play three shows at the\nRoyal then go down on the Block and play two. I played for strippers and all\nthat. A lot of musicians would come down to Kays to hear me play because they\nsaid I was playing a whole lot of stuff they'd never hear anywhere else. That\nwas in the 1940s. Kays Cabaret. I played three shows at the Royal Theatre and\ntwo shows at Kays until 2 o'clock. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=780.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"See, the Royal Theatre, you had to be there\nuntil around one o'clock. You could write a whole lot of stuff about that.\n\nIn about 1948 I went to the Howard Theatre [in Washington, D.C.] with Rick\nHenderson to play with his band. He heard me with Tracy [McCleary's] band.\nThat's when I started moving around. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=840.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sometime I played in Washington, D.C., for\na week, then the show would come to the Royal in Baltimore for a week and then\nit would go from the Royal to the Uptown in Philadelphia for a week, and I\nplayed for Little Richard. He went all the way to New York at the Apollo. So I had\n\nabout four weeks. While I was playing at the Howard Theatre Pearl Bailey came\nthere for a week. I played in her band - for her husband (he's a drummer). They\nwanted me to go to New York and play their show but I had another show in\nWashington I had to play for. I wish I could have went. That was a good time.\nOne of the trumpet players asked me who I studied with and how long I'd been\nstudying because he had big money to really learn how to play the trumpet. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=900.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I\ntold him that I studied with A. Jack. He couldn't figure out how I could play\nall the stuff that he was playing and I didn't go through all the changes he\nhad. I had other changes I was going through. Pearl Bailey was 1948 or 1950.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=960.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then a friend of mine (we used to play together at Kays) Purnell Williams, we\ndid some jobs together. He used to play down at the Prime Rib. Now he would have\nCharlie Harris playing bass, saxophone player named Gross, and Richard Martin\nplaying drums. That was a very nice entertaining group. Then Rick Williams came\nalong with his rehearsal band, \"Now Is The Time.\" ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1020.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In 1967 things broke off. It\nwasn't too good. I got a day job at Sears Roebuck's maintenance department. I\ndid pretty good there. From 1967 until about 1982. Now I'm sixty-two and they\nfigure that I should be retiring. I'd been there long enough to get some\nvacation. They figured out how to cut that out too. I got into the floor selling\nthings. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1080.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They thought I would get disgusted and leave. Instead of doing that, I\nlearned how to do the cash register, computers and all that. I was selling\ncameras, computers, telephones, typewriters, all that stuff. I learned about all\nof that. I like to be learning something all the time.\n\nI stayed there until 1985. That's when I retired. I still play with Gene\nWalker's band and with Rick Williams. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1140.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That brings me up to now.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I've always wondered about Rivers Chambers' band. I know that\nsome of the people who played with him were devoted church members and they\nwould be out practically every night on the weekends playing jobs and then be up\nthe next morning to play in the church.\n\nROY McCOY: Rivers used to play at Sharp Street Methodist. I used to go to Enon\nBaptist Church.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Were a lot of the people who played in the churches also\ninvolved in club jobs at night?\n\nROY McCOY: Not all of them. Not all of them went to church. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1200.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did and Purnell\nWilliams used to play in the church. He still plays in churches.\n\nI've got tapes, but I don't have time to listen to them. Sometimes I record when\nI'm playing. I call them my practice tapes. Then I bring them back and play over\nthem so I can analyze them and do better. I never have a chance to analyze them.\nNext time I go, I'll record another one.\n\nI used to sound pretty good.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1260.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was the atmosphere in the clubs in the 1930s? Like the Ritz\n\nROY McCOY: Let's go up to the High Hat...that was the first club I worked at. A\nlot of people would come there to have fun. They had a show. Every night\nsomebody like Billie Holiday would come in and that would make the show better.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1320.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People really looked forward to that. The singers would\n\nlook forward to going there to jam because we played the background for them.\nThat's the only time they had a chance to get things going. That was a happy\nfeeling. Now we have tapes, record players, disks and all that stuff now. That's\ndone the clubs no good. We had no TV. In order to be happy, you had to go somewhere.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So the performances at night were never the same. You never\nknew what was going to happen with different people?\n\nROY McCOY: We'd have a couple of singers and the band would stay the same but\neverybody else coming we added on. At the Ritz we had chorus girls and regular\nshows. We had a comedian. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1380.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On Sundays we had a matinee. We'd start at 2 o'clock.\nThey'd fix sandwiches for us so we wouldn't have to go home. We'd stay there and\neat the sandwiches and then go back to playing again. We kept the thing going.\n\nThen they started taking moving pictures of the guests at the club. Then next\nweek, you'd come back and see yourself on the screen. So that brought people in\ntoo. It was pretty nice.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: The Avenue sounded so glamorous, with so much happening.\n\nROY McCOY: See, each club had a little something different. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1440.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like the Ritz had\nthat big show. In the next block there would be another little club and a guy\nwith a guitar and one of those little horns you sing into -- a kazoo. We'd make\nthe rounds, taking them all in.\n\nThe girls at the Ritz danced on the tables then, excuse the expression, they\nwould dance on the tables and reach over like they were going to get the money\noff the table with their bodies, down below. All the men got excited about that.\nThat was the time. That is what was going on. Things have changed and so they\nare better than they used to be.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1500.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think a lot of things are better.\n\nROY McCOY: There are some things that are bad too.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But the music scene seemed so beautiful -- one of the\nwonderful parts of life in the 1930s and 1940s. All these marvelous clubs and\nwonderful musicians.\n\nROY McCOY: You had musicians and you had dancers. Tap dancers...that was the\nshow. Now you have TV. There's so much dirty stuff on.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I remember being surprised to see that there was a show that\nRivers Chambers had written the music for at the Royal Theatre. There was\ncriticism about the show being a little too racy. I cannot remember the name of\nthe show.\n\nROY McCOY: I heard about that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1560.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was there all the time before we started\ncoming in.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You were going to tell me about the clubs. Where did you meet\nTracy McCleary?\n\nROY McCOY: I lived on Lanvale Street and Pennsylvania Avenue.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: When was this? You were at Madison.\n\nROY McCOY: I moved to Madison after Lanvale Street. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1620.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I lived on the west corner\nof Lanvale and Pennsylvania and on this corner there was a building and in the\nbasement he had the band office. They would play and rehearse over there and I\nwould listen to them. I lived in back of a dentist's office - downstairs was a\nbakery and next door was a night club. The night club in the daytime wasn't\ndoing anything so Tracy one time had his rehearsals there and I had just got the\nhorn. I started playing some music, trying to get with the band. I knew him and\ndown at the school, one time they came down to play for the kids. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1680.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When they came\ndown I talked to the trumpet players and they explained to me how I needed to\ntake care of my teeth. One was decaying and he said to get that fixed because\nyou can lose it. I did lose it later. I knew them from then on. It must have\nbeen around 1936 or 1937 because soon I went into the union and most everybody\nbegan to know who I was...Tanglefoot.\n\nThat's when I had a big surprise. It was really exciting. Louis Armstrong was\ncoming to the Royal Theatre. See the only thing that happened at the Royal was\nbig time. One of the trumpet players was late and couldn't make it. So they\ncalled down and had to get a replacement. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1740.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, the union called me. So I'm\nsitting up behind Louis Armstrong and he's playing notes that I used to be up\nfront listening to. That was really exciting.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did you tell him that he was the one who got you interested in\nplaying the trumpet?\n\nROY McCOY: No, I didn't get a chance to tell him. I don't know why, though. I\nwas really thrilled by it. I never thought I'd...well, you really have to think\nhigh. Then good comes to you. You think down... You have to think up...think\npositive. 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The other house was on the other\nside of the street and you had to lift up a trap door to go into the basement.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where did you meet your wife?\n\nROY McCOY: I met her at graduation. I knew her. Funny thing about her, I was\nliving on Lanvale Street and she and her sister would come down like they were\ngoing to the store, the grocery store. They would be talking to each other. I\nhad seen them so much. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1860.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They seemed to be nice girls. I never thought about her\nuntil one day she was at graduation. The band played for them and I saw her and\nkept on looking at her. So we got to know each other real good and we went\ntogether for six years before we got married. We've been married 52 years. It\nwas sometime around the time I was with Lionel Hampton.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=1920.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did the war affect your playing? Did you have a hard time\ngetting around because of restrictions on travel?\n\nROY McCOY: Well, with the band, we did pretty good. Then Lionel was playing at\narmy camps too.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You were fortunate in not getting called up.\n\nROY McCOY: I was in the Maryland State Guard. When they called me I didn't make\nit. They didn't take me. 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That was in Virginia.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you came to Baltimore when you were about ten years old and\nwhere were you living then?\n\nROY McCOY: I was living in Staunton, Virginia, before Baltimore and then in\nTrenton, N.J., before that.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where did you live when you were a child here in Baltimore?\n\nROY McCOY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2160.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At Dolphin Street and Division Street.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I loved your story about selling newspapers. It reminded me of\nChick Webb who got his first set of drums selling newspapers.\n\nROY McCOY: I sold a lot of papers down on that corner. I'll tell you another\nfunny thing about selling newspapers on that corner. Up in the next block, in\nthe middle of the block was a Conn's Music\n\nStore. They always had trumpets in the window. They had this Conn trumpet in the\nwindow and it would shine -- it was pretty. I said \"one day I'm going to get me\none of those trumpets.\"\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2220.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was on Howard Street.\n\nROY McCOY: Howard Street.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: My brother took accordion lessons in that store.\n\nROY McCOY: Yes. Right upstairs. Anyway, I said give me one of those trumpets.\nYou know, today I like that horn, the Conn horn, better than all of the rest of\nthe horns and I've got two of them...three of them. I just kept up my momentum.\nI wanted them and I got them.\n\nYou have to think positive and keep looking up. Things will come to you.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Tell me about the group you play with at Morgan.\n\nROY McCOY: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2280.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thomas Williams (we call him Whit) started an 18 piece band called\nthe \"Now Is The Time Band.\" Jimmy Heath, he's a good arranger. Michael Raitzyk\nhas a rehearsal band. Gene Walker's band is pretty good too. I guess I'm hard to satisfy.\n\nI've just about played for everybody. When I was in Washington I played for Nat\nCole's brother, Freddie Cole, when he was there. I played for Vaughn Monroe. I\nplayed first trumpet for him - he said I was playing too loud. See I used to\nplay rock and roll and I played for James Brown - I forgot to tell you. I played\nfor Cab Calloway and for Flip Wilson, the Drifters, the Coasters, Moms Mabley,\nHarry Belafonte, and Danny Kaye.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2340.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Mr. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2400.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McCoy ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2460.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"plays ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2520.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tape ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2580.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2640.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2700.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"performance with Michael Raitzyk's band. The band\nhas 5 saxophones, 4 trumpets, drums, guitar, bass]\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2760.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/transcript/38437/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Every time I play I do something different.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: When did Michael Raitzyk's band get together?\n\nROY McCOY: I don't know how long they've been playing. I've been playing with\nthem for about a year. Michael came over from Gene Walker's band.\n\nI miss playing in the concert band. Oh, I forgot to tell you that I was playing\nin the Shriner's Circus band in the '60s. I really enjoyed that.\n\n[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2820.0,2880.0"}]},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/index/51769","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Roy McCoy oral history, 1996 August 12 07-05-2022 16:41 [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/index/51769/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Reality of touring","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=0.0,312.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/index/51769/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McCoy discusses the difficulties of life on tour and his reasons for coming back to Baltimore. 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McCoy also plays a recording of him playing with Michael Raitzyk's band. ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2337.0,3006.09306"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457/index/51769/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ELIZABETH SCHAAF: Tell me about the group you play with at Morgan. ROY McCOY: Thomas Williams (we call him Whit) started an 18 piece band called the \"Now Is The Time Band.\" Jimmy Heath, he's a good arranger. Michael Raitzyk has a rehearsal band. Gene Walker's band is pretty good too. I guess I'm hard to satisfy.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44154/file/117457#t=2337.0,3006.09306"}]}]}]}