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Okay, there we go. So could you just for the record, I guess, say your full name for me, please?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1.81,8.88"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Elder Jeff Jacobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=9.07,9.84"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e And could you tell me your date and place of birth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=13.17,15.24"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh my, then you'll know how old I am? 10/30/1958, Annapolis, Maryland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=16.41,22.2"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you are extremely, extremely young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=22.89,24.57"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, right. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=24.96,25.529"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e You are. And your address currently?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=25.86,29.58"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e [REDACTED] -- here in Baltimore. Now that I don't want publicized.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=33.275,37.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it will not be publicized, I promise, that part. This is just for our records.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=37.87,41.41"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Not a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=41.77,42.07"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, I know for now you're the minister of music here at Bethel A.M.E. Church. So that's a big part of your life, obviously. Just a little bit about when you were younger -- what was your first exposure to music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=43.99,56.71"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e It literally goes back to ever since I could remember. My mom was in the choir at her church which was the Asbury United Methodist Church in Annapolis. My grandmother was at that time -- they would call them pianist or organist at another Methodist Church. So I've been surrounded by music forever, to the point of remembering. And I could not begin to recall the age exactly, but literally, since I could retain being in the back of the choir loft as my mom sang. That's as much as I remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=59.41,109.21"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Being influenced by -- my mother has a phenomenal soprano voice. And my grandmother, Mrs. Victoria Parker, who's since gone on to be with the Lord, had that traditional blues, jazz, gospel touch -- we call it today traditional gospel music -- which was an influence from how my grandmother played in comparison to the music from the church that I was born in -- again, United Methodist. It was what we considered to be high worship, where we did nothing but hymns and anthems. So to go to my grandmother's church and to get pure, raw gospel was just exciting -- to know that my grandmother played like that. My sister actually started piano before I did. The first instrument that I remember taking up was in the fourth grade, and that was violin. And I do not tell many people that. [Laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=109.419,183.16"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I studied that for a little bit and got a little bored with it. Then I had private lessons from a wonderful person in Annapolis -- her name is Mrs. Irene Richardson -- and studying under her for a period of time, and my skills graduated to where the church organist at the Asbury United Methodist Church, Mrs. Laura Parker, gave me my first opportunity and playing doing a worship service. And needless to say, I was scared to death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=186.01,224.44"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I do remember the first hymn that I ever played in church was called \"Have Thine Own Way,\" and it was done doing Holy Communion. So, shortly after that, I would begin to maybe play a hymn or so, maybe like a Wednesday night Bible study or something like that. And from that experience, my aunt's cousin from Houston went to Howard University and would stay in the Annapolis area occasionally and decided to start a community choir, a gospel community choir. And it was called the Soul Choir. His name was Jackie Scott. Phenomenal, phenomenal musician. And it was a little bit of a challenge in that being experienced to his genre of music, wanting to duplicate it in the United Methodist Church, well -- they somewhat frowned on it because they just weren't ready for that expression of gospel, and the Lord worked it out where my pastor -- My home church is in Annapolis. It's called the Holy Temple Cathedral, and now the Bishop Wilbert Baltimore. We just happened -- it's a long, long story behind it, but it's a Pentecostal church. And needless to say, I, along with my sister and the core of young people from the Methodist Church, were very drawn to the church because they had a flavor of music that was in comparison to the soul choir that we were part of. So we eventually started going to the Pentecostal Church, more so than the United Methodist Church for the music and ended up becoming members.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=226.18,355.81"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e And that occurred -- the pastor and his wife were away on vacation, and they needed a musician to cover the service. And now that I look back on it, it's very funny because here I am, music only, as far as playing, and this is a very spontaneous Pentecostal church that would just all of a sudden start singing a song that I would not have any clue as to what it was. So I would be sitting there looking kind of stupid, [Laughs] you know? And that was the first service ever in my life that I had played for individually. And again, we eventually joined. And listening to the music within that church setting -- I believe that the music ministry that God has given me began to blossom I would say when I was in the twelfth grade. I think I was about fifteen or sixteen, and that's when the Lord gave me my first song. And it was entitled \"I Love the Lord\" in A-flat [Laughter] and I began to really compose a lot of music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=356.38,432.63"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e And eventually, the directorship of the church choir at the Pentecostal Church was given to my leadership, and our church became really known for the music and not just the preaching, but the music as well. And we would travel quite a bit. I would also accompany the pastor, Bishop Baltimore, doing revivals, and I would train choirs for him when he was in revivals and this was across the country. From that, I founded an international workshop called the International Praise Gospel Music Workshop. It started out as a local assembly, but became international because I was doing some international travel at the time. And from that particular conference, we recorded my first album, entitled Delivered, which was released in 1985, and that is, per se, my signature product. Did a lot of traveling, doing workshops, et cetera, et cetera, and then recorded my second project, and I think it was released in '89. That was entitled Somebody Needs You. Some other choirs, some renowned artists, a few of which are now deceased, recorded quite a bit of my music. But it was basically from the first album that kind of launched my recording career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=434.37,536.28"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e After the '89 release -- the Somebody Needs You project, which was released on Atlanta International Records, not Atlantic, Atlanta International Records -- I went through a really devastating experience that really changed my foundation that had been established spiritually, emotionally for quite some time. And it's like the Lord brought me to a point where he kind of threw me out there to see what I was going to do, and it was a very devastating experience that caused me to really refocus my faith in God. And from that -- Am I talking too much?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=539.16,596.97"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it's wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=597.54,597.97"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e [Laughs] Okay. From that particular experience I was going through and my testimony, per se, is on the cover of my third project, which is entitled Broken Pieces. That is my testimony. During that time, I was under so much stress and anxiety that I did not want to travel anymore, doing concerts and whatnot. I unfortunately, and I regret it to this day, did not continue the international workshop that I founded. I was just in major depression. And that lasted for at least three years and it just -- My music, I was still composing music, still writing, but as far as -- The only ministry that I would do would be in my local church setting. And in retrospect, the majority of the songs that -- I always attribute my gift to the Lord -- that the Lord allowed me to compose always centered around the storm, and I was literally in a storm. And I remember the day that the Lord lifted me from the depression, and it was like one morning I woke up, my feet hit the floor, and I said, \"This is the day the Lord has made. I shall rejoice and be glad in it.\" And ever since that time, the Lord had reestablished the foundation in my life and begin to pull things back musically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=597.97,710.88"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Founded my own production company called JTJ Productions, and we did my third recording with the Eastern High School Choir out of Washington, D.C. That was probably one of the highlights of my life. Not just -- the choir is the most phenomenal choir that I've ever worked with, and that release was, I can't remember, approximately five years ago. The choir was filled of young people, of course. I was twice their age. But the energy and the vocal training that they had under -- Oh Lord, I can't remember her name, it'll come back to me in a second -- Mrs. Joyce Garrett was just awesome. And again, it was really phenomenal for me because making a statement, that here I am, back again. That particular project was released under a small new label called Journey Records, based here out of Baltimore. Unfortunately, that company did not do as well as it had planned to. I'm inf the process of looking to some other companies for redistribution, et cetera, et cetera. But in between all of that time, six years ago, I was offered to come to Bethel A.M.E. Church under the pastorate of [Reverend] Dr. [Frank] Reid, who is world renowned by his preaching. And of course, because of the TV broadcasts that we have on B.E.T and some other TV -- The Dream Network.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=712.68,837.69"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I was in my dormant state of not doing too much musically. I was yet at my home church and a buddy of mine who lives in Baltimore called me and said, \"Are you aware that Bethel A.M.E. is in need of a minister of music?\" And I said, \"Surely not the Bethel A.M.E. Church.\" So I said, \"You need to make sure your information is right.\" I said, \"Why don't you call [the church] and call me back?\" So he called here and I believe he mentioned my name and they obviously had heard of me. And he called back -- \"They said for you to call.\" It's like, mid-week, and they asked me to fax a resumé which I faxed on a Friday, and they called right away. And I believe I had an interview the following Monday or Wednesday, and I've been here ever since. So it's been a very challenging position in that Bethel has over fourteen, close to fifteen thousand members. Very busy but exciting schedule. And working under such a phenomenal pastor as Dr. Reid, who expects nothing more than excellence, it has pushed me even further in my -- I'm a perfectionist at heart. And I thought I did things perfectly. [Laughter] I learned a lot more when I got here. So it's pushed me to that mark of excellence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=841.32,942.33"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e We have several choirs, dance ministries, signing ministries, rap groups, step teams under the music umbrella. We're prayerfully going to do the first CD for Bethel in July and then prayerfully again, in the fall, I'll do another CD for me. So that's me. What else you want to know? [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=945.06,974.549"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e That was great. Let's see. You talked about the influences of your grandmother and your mother on your music-making very early on. Were there other things you wanted to say about their singing or their vocalizing or their playing, aside from what you've already mentioned?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=975.85,996.12"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e From my mother and from the Asbury United Methodist Church, I definitely developed the appreciation for sacred music, some not just gospel oriented. I definitely love hymns and anthems and Negro spirituals. I write a variety of music, from anthems to contemporary music The likes of people who have influenced me other than my mom and my grandmother -- one of my mentors, and he doesn't even know it, is Richard Smallwood, who is a world renowned songwriter, singer, recording artist; Myrna Summers -- in fact, both are graduates of Howard University, which I'm a graduate of Howard University; and the late Dr. Mattie Moss Clark, who's the mom of the Clark sisters. I've had the opportunity to sit under her tutelage, and most of her teaching style I have stolen [Laughter], I've adapted in my own teaching. My directing, when I'm leading in particular, one thing that I learned from Myrna Summers -- phenomenal vocalist -- but she would just blow me away when she would be leading a song and directing the choir with her back to the choir. So I learned those skills from her. My mentoring via Richard Smallwood is not so much as far as chord structure, but I believe as far as intensity and message of music. I've not tried to -- there are few who can replicate Richard Smallwood music chord structure wise. I don't believe in doing that, but definitely message as far as praise to God, inspirational modes of music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1002.69,1144.95"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e And also the late Reverend James Cleveland, I was extremely honored -- I had a concert in my home church many years ago, and one of the things that I will always remember and will stay with me -- I sang just before he came to sing and he was sitting in the congregation and he said, \"Some people sing all they know how, some people sing all they want to. Jeff sings all he wants to.\" And that's always stayed in my head. And that was a great word of encouragement from the king of gospel music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1148.31,1193.76"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e So church music seems to have been, in essence, the music of your life and gospel as well. And that apparently began since your youth, since ages ago. Have you ever participated in different kinds of music other than gospel that you think might have helped influence this kind of music as being the love of your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1199.91,1223.07"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e People who know me know that if they are riding in my car or in my house, the only music that is played is gospel. And the only time that that might vary is if I am in a place where the gospel station does not reach, then I'll turn to a secular station. There is one -- Now, I keep updated with the secular artists, per se. But I can't say that I make a habit out of listening to secular music. Some of the gospel artists who have crossed over, as in Yolanda Adams and Kirk Franklin. I keep very much in tune with what they do by their product. My all time favorite artist actually is not necessarily Christian or labeled gospel, but she is indeed gospel. And that is the queen of soul, Aretha Franklin. I live for Aretha Franklin. I mean, I absolutely adore her. I have dreams about her [Laughs], and I just believe somewhere between here and there, I'm going to do something with Aretha Franklin. I just believe that. I've had a passion for her singing, just her persona, ever since I was a little boy. I've done a lot of things, I've accomplished a lot of things in life, at my age. But when I meet and deal with Aretha, I will be ready to die. [Laughter] That's just it. That will be the ultimate, and I would have done everything in life I've wanted to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1224.87,1349.95"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e That's really great. I love Aretha Franklin, myself. I find her to be fantastic in so many ways. It's really interesting that you say that -- having that connection that you feel like might be there between you and other people. Church music reaches so many people. I mean, you say yourself, there's a congregation of fifteen thousand people here. When I came on Sunday, I saw how much the music reached the audience and it reached me a lot too. And what do you think were the reasons behind your huge pursual of this message?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1350.97,1391.2"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe -- no, I don't believe, I know without a question that my purpose for being placed here by God has been to be an instrument to bring healing, hope and encouragement for hurting people. The church is a hospital and people come because they need something to hold on to. I believe that music is primarily used to lift the name of God and to give him praise and adoration. And through that lifting by us focusing on God, it takes our minds off of ourselves and on to a higher being that can lift us from the stuff that we have to deal with in our lives. The majority of the music that I do, as well as the songs that God gives me to compose, it's either dealing with praise or it's dealing with pain and allowing people to feel joy, even in the midst of a hurting situation. I become very passionate and very intense in my music. I am in utopia when I'm doing music. That is the absolute high for me. I don't do music to entertain. I yield myself to God as a vessel for God, to minister to the people through me. I don't consider myself a phenomenal singer. I consider myself one who knows how to minister song and from the things that God has allowed me to experience. The hurt, disappointment, anxiety. I know how to tune in to those people who are going through similar situations and prayerfully -- through the music, through the songs -- that it comes out that if God brought me through, then he can surely bring you through as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1395.19,1565.37"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e So it's with passion. The choir members will tell you how driving I can be, particularly with the delivery of a song. I do not believe in singing to entertain or to impress. There are too many people who need something from God for -- if you want to be entertained, go to a theater and do that genre. But as far as music here, that is unto God, it's to just overall uplift. So it's with a great passion. And a mandate -- there was an experience that I had that I know without question, God has called me to music ministry. I'm also a preacher, but my first calling is to music. And I remember the day that I felt God sanction the music ministry or, as we would say in the spiritual term, when he anointed me for music ministry. And that's the day that I will never forget that I know without question that God has mandated me to be in this music ministry and to be in ministry for his glory that his people might be blessed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1566.6,1662.15"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you tell me anything about that day?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1663.32,1664.77"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I was at my home church. I can't remember how old I was, but I would say in my latter teens or my early twenties, I do not recall the song, but I was playing on the organ and I don't play that much now -- Here at Bethel, we have a staff of musicians, phenomenal musicians, and I prefer leading in praise and worship or directing now. But I was playing on the organ and more than likely it was a song, an original composition, and the presence of the Lord just fell in a very phenomenal way. And I had an experience that every time I think about it, it just blows me away. It was almost as though my spirit was taken to another dimension -- that I knew I was playing, but I was not here. And I felt the presence of the Lord or an angel of the Lord come from behind me. And it was as though he put a cloak around me. And when that happened, it was like this tingling sensation just went throughout my body. I mean, from head to toe. And I knew what was happening. I knew that God was placing a certain mantle on me, per se. And when I realized that I was back to planet Earth per se, one of the church mothers, as we would say in the Pentecostal church, she was caught up in the spirit and she came over to me and she was rejoicing in the Lord and put her hand on me. And she said these words: \"This day the Lord has anointed you.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1667.344,1795.65"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was like absolute confirmation. She did not know the experience that I had. So it was absolute confirmation that my experience was not something in my mind, something that I made up or was just an emotional thing. That was one of those supernatural spiritual events that from that day, my life has not been the same musically. It's just a certain thing that God has placed in my life from that day, that people know that when I stand to minister that there's something different about him. And so I'm indebted to God for entrusting me with such a gift. And if I don't know anything else about myself is that I know God has anointed me for ministering, and I'll cherish that for life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1797.09,1857.16"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you feel that members of your choir now or members of the staff of your musicians, as you talked about -- they're all members of the congregation, of course?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1862.56,1873.09"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Some of the musicians are not. They are employees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1874.25,1876.96"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. So your choir -- are they all members of the congregation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1879.61,1885.99"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e All of the choir members are, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1887.34,1888.45"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e And are any of them professional musicians or are they all --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1889.05,1891.906"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e All of the musicians are professional. My associate minister of music has a local project out that he's shopping around for a distribution deal, but he's a phenomenal songwriter in his own right as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1892.11,1905.7"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e As far as this message moving you so much, have you felt that with any of the members of your choir? Have you felt that the new way in which you direct and in which you carry yourself as far as the music industry is concerned, have you felt that that has reached out to them in any way?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1909.09,1927.51"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I have, over the tenure here, imparted a lot of concepts of praise and worship, theology based, or the theology of music, that I teach them. They have definitely grown in a lot of ways -- and to God be the glory for that -- since I've been here. I'm actually doing another session with them tonight in reference to something that I feel like is time for us to grow to another level now. I'm going to share some things with them tonight. But definitely, I think they've caught on to some things. Their spirituality has increased and is increasing. I would not expect, per se, the same or I would not expect people to have a similar experience that I've had because this is the calling that God has on my life. But they definitely sing with a lot of power and energy. They love to sing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=1930.3,2003.56"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. That was radiantly obvious from sitting in the audience on Sunday that there's so much power in just the vocal capacity. And I kept sort of elbowing my friend and saying, I can't believe this, it's phenomenal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2004.25,2018.44"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2019.34,2019.67"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e It was absolutely beautiful. I probably shouldn't be talking this much, but it interests me a lot. I'm not a religious person. My family never has been. I've only been to church on occasion with my best friend. She's Catholic and I've been to her Catholic Church for Christmas time and things like that. But I never felt so moved by anything as I was on Sunday, simply because I think the music was present. And for me, music is also a very, as you had mentioned earlier, sort of like an essence of your being type of thing. When you play music, you're in another level almost. So I felt that a lot that day as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2020.0,2058.219"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Excellent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2058.67,2058.67"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e You mentioned that you had some teachers in your youth as well. I forget the name, I'm sorry -- you mentioned one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2062.239,2067.61"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e My personal instructor was Mrs. Irene Richardson. And believe it or not, my professional, personalized lessons were on the brief side. It's not like I studied for years at all. Everything that I have is a gift. I studied long enough to read music. If you put Bach and Beethoven in front of me, I would say, pass it on to the next person. I read obviously enough to do anthems and negro spirituals and whatnot. I do not categorize myself nor has it been a goal or desire to be a profound keyboardist. My gift is in writing, directing and instructing. But Mrs. Richardson -- had it not been for her then I would not have the skills that I do have today. And I believe she is yet the organist for the First Baptist Church in Annapolis. She's still around. My sister studied under her. She had a number of years of training and doesn't use it to this day, unfortunately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2068.96,2166.01"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e How many years did you actually take the privatized lessons for?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2168.98,2173.09"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Believe it or not, I did piano and then I did organ. Or did I do organ and keyboard or piano? I don't remember. But you believe, probably less than a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2173.57,2184.55"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Overall?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2184.909,2184.909"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Mmm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2186.86,2186.86"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow. And that was when you were younger?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2187.94,2189.47"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Mmm-hmm. Learning the violin as well, I did that for a while. But don't tell anybody. [Laughter] So I think the violin definitely, as far as reading -- But then merging over to keyboard, the reason why I did not stay with it was I felt like I was -- well, she was taking me a little bit too slow and I wanted to play gospel. I wanted to get to gospel. So again, I stayed with them long enough where I could learn how to play in church as far as a hymn. So I would play a lot, like after lessons I would go home and just play and play and play and play. So when I was able to handle some things on my own and learn on my own, that's when I said, I can do this myself. So I've watched people, some of my friends in Baltimore, Washington, wherever I would travel, I would sit and watch them play. Particularly the organ, because I loved the organ -- Hammond organ in particular. I would just watch and listen and observe and go home and try it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2189.98,2277.28"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e And then being at Howard, my major at Howard was radiation therapy with a business minor. So it was totally non-music. Non-related. And every break that I had, I would go over to the school of music, and if I heard gospel, I would go in and ask, Could I watch them play? And there are a few people that let me sit, and they would teach me little things so that's how it came about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2278.3,2310.28"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e That's really interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2311.39,2311.84"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e [Laughs] It's predominantly a gift, though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2314.101,2316.25"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e That it wasn't even related in the past. I love how you can hear the rehearsal, by the way. Right now in your ministry here, I know you had mentioned you have several choirs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2317.99,2332.3"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, we have the Outreach of Love, which is the adult choir. They are about 125 strong. We have the Brotherhood Choir. That's the men's choir. They are about eighty strong. We have our young people's choir called Joshua Generation. They are about eighty strong. We have Perfected Praised Children's Choir. They are about seventy-five strong. We have three dance ministries -- the Adult Dance Ministry, the Children's Dance Ministry, the Men's Dance Ministry. Collectively, they add up to about maybe fifty people. We have a signing choir. They are five in number -- four in number. And the step team and rap team, they're about five. I think that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2333.53,2406.78"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e And do you oversee all of them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2408.2,2409.63"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Mmm-hmm. I don't train all of them. I oversee them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2411.76,2413.5"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e I see. So are some of them led on their own as well? When you say you just oversee them and don't train them --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2413.98,2420.391"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Administratively, as far as scheduling when they're to minister, overseeing the type of music that they may minister, I'm not a dictator when it comes down to -- Just like one of my associate ministers of music for, per se, the young people, I have a directress over them, who occasionally, I may ask her to teach the young people da-da-da-da-da-da-da. But I basically give free rein of artistry to whoever is over that particular group. But I make sure that they stay within the vision of Dr. Reid and the music flavor for the House of Bethel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2420.52,2468.79"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e I see. I don't want to interrupt us, I just know seven thirty you have to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2469.57,2476.297"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Seven o'clock, actually, but I'm okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2476.8,2478.06"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I'm sorry -- I didn't know it was seven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2478.639,2478.967"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't worry about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2479.17,2479.77"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Well, I'll let you go in a couple of minutes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2480.28,2481.968"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e That's why I have a staff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2484.19,2484.285"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Wonderful. I was under the impression it was seven thirty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2484.298,2485.543"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e That's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2487.75,2487.942"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's see if I can squeeze something else in here. We still have a little bit of time. So as far as arriving at Bethel, actually where you are now, you had mentioned it was through -- was it your brother -- ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2487.952,2502.485"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e A friend of mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2502.485,2503.11"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e A friend of yours that had called and mentioned your name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2503.138,2505.03"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Marco Merrick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2505.03,2505.04"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Marco Merrick. And how long have you actually been at Bethel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2506.47,2509.98"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I started interviewing in April six years ago, so this just makes six years. The interview process was very long. I was officially on staff September the 4th of, what is that, '96? Something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2513.55,2536.65"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so it's been six years. Wonderful. Good for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2537.25,2541.03"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's afforded me a lot of great opportunities. My home church is a small membership of maybe about three hundred. But the choir, the music department there was just unbelievable. Coming here under the pastorate of Dr. Reid, it's taken me to -- even though recording and traveling and da-da-da-da-da -- I've been in a setting here where I've been allowed to bring in a lot of different artists, and the choir has ministered with the likes of evangelist Dorothy Norwood; Yolanda Adams has been here, Daryl Coley has been here, LaShun Pace. Anointed, Virtue, you name it. They've been here. Jennifer Holliday recently. Regina Belle. So it's been a great, great time. A lot of work, but a great time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2542.62,2609.31"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sure. That's wonderful. I wish I could keep you for longer, but I don't want to keep you from your --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2609.7,2613.534"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e That's okay. I'm fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2616.179,2616.35"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, great. I just want to make sure. You let me know when you need to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2616.42,2620.41"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Choir singing in background]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2627.97,2628.016"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm distracted, but it's beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2628.012,2628.93"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I haven't heard this song before, so they're sneaking this on me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2630.12,2633.4"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e Just trying to see here -- so I heard from Mrs. Augustus [phonetic] about, and you mentioned, the various recordings that you made. Now you haven't talked much about them, which leads me to think that obviously other things are more important. What led you to actually do these recordings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2637.92,2654.36"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e My first recording, which was the most successful, entitled Delivered -- that was recorded when I had no gray hair -- again, that was out of my workshop that I had founded and had absolutely no idea that it would take me to where it took me. Because people to this day -- and the project is, what, seventeen years old? -- they still know me by that and still request those songs. In fact, on my next project, I'm going to do two of those songs over again, they've been requested so much. And now that I know it was the Lord that led us to do it, there's some thoughts that pop in your mind and you think it's a good thought only to find out that that thought absolutely came from God and he said to do this for this time. And that's what we did. The workshop itself funded the recording and then the tape, or the master, was then taken over by a major record label. The same record label -- I don't know if you're familiar with Doug [Douglas] Miller or I think his name was Little Cedric, who ended up being part of some secular group now; Dr. Mattie Moss Clark and I think they were called YOU-NAC [phonetic], which was the Youth Association for the Church of God in Christ, the largest Pentecostal organization in the world. We were all on the same label at the same time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2661.19,2769.04"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e And again, I was doing a lot of traveling from that, to the point where I really got tired of traveling. I enjoyed it, but after a while, I got to a point -- I would go from city to city. I would not even come out of my hotel room until it was time for the concert. I wasn't really excited about seeing any new city. I was just, let's do the concert, have church and go home. I'm not the type of person that's easily excited by fanfare too much. I'm just one hundred percent ministry based. If God is not a part of it, then I don't want to be a part of it. And that's been my thing. Now I do miss -- I feel this bug in me to get back recording. Again, the last project, the Broken Pieces -- in essence, I feel like I might as well not have done it because the record company just did not do right by it. And sometimes, even though something is not out on the market, it gets old, even though people have not heard it because technology changes, instrumentation changes. There are a few songs that I eventually will redo over from that because of the message in them, but it's just like, that's a wasted project. My second project, entitled Somebody Needs You, was released under Atlanta International Records.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429#t=2770.84,2880.64"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117429/transcript/32819/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e During that time, I was also -- well after that release, I was offered a major contract from three gentlemen who were affiliated with BET [television channel]. They formed a record label called Enterprise Records, and I was the first gospel artist that they had given a contract to. It was going to be a multifaceted label -- R\u0026B, hip hop, et cetera -- and they had funded a lot of money for the project. It was the first time that I ever felt like a star because they gave me this lavish reception. I mean, ice sculptures, I just -- okay. [Laughs] Is this what being a star is like? So one of the gentlemen unfortunately -- let me put it nicely -- misappropriated some of the money. So my attorney would not let me further in the contract. And at the same time, rumor has it that the Atlanta International Records got wind of the fact that I was being offered a contract and they stopped promoting the second project. That's rumor, I don't know how true it is, but it surely was not promoted as my first project was and that was a little hurtful and I believe that I was right on the edge of really soaring in the music industry. Billboard magazine had done an article on me saying that even though I was back then a traditional gospel singer, my presentation was like -- what word did they use? 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My objective is, I feel that what God has planted in me is to be of help to people. And I've asked God to give me one more opportunity to share the message that he's given me with the world just one more time. And then I'll feel fulfilled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=2.73,40.05"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430/transcript/32814/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Again, we are planning a recording session with Bethel. And I'm extremely excited about it. It will be very unique. Everybody knows how prolific Dr. Reid is in preaching. So with all of these songs that we're going to do, some songs will be my compositions and my associate minister of music, Eric Scott's compositions, and some other noted songwriters. All of the titles of the songs will be given to Dr. Reid, and he will preach a sermon with the collaborative titles. And so excerpts from the sermon will introduce the songs on the CD. So it's going to be a very, very powerful concept, so we're excited about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=44.37,94.77"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430/transcript/32814/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a very sort of novel idea for a project. Which of these albums are you most happy with? Because you mentioned difficulties with the first and the second, the messages that they sent, et cetera. Do you think this final project is going to be the project that's going to -- ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=95.1,120.839"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430/transcript/32814/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe, for the project that we're going to do with Bethel, I believe it will take the music department to another level. Bethel is noted definitely for preaching, and I believe that with this project from -- we call it the Bethel Nation -- that it will further complement the ministry that's here. For the project that I will do in the fall, I'm praying that that will be the project that will reestablish me in the gospel industry. And if it's the Lord's will that it will lead to a few more projects before I get too old and can't sing my C-sharps again, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=122.85,173.43"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430/transcript/32814/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e I understand. Well, thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=174.39,177.15"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430/transcript/32814/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=177.84,178.14"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430/transcript/32814/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eMELODY ABEDINEJAD:\u003c/strong\u003e It was an absolute delight to have this interview with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=178.26,180.93"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430/transcript/32814/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eJEFF JACOBS:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44140/file/117430#t=181.2,181.47"}]}]}]}