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Anderson performed in Atlantic City with the Grooveneers and toured with his wife, Sylvia Jones Anderson, as a duo called the Two Hot Peppers and a group called known as Three Strikes and a Miss. He and his group often appeared at Club Astoria, a musical bar at 1309 Edmondson Avenue. This nightspot was blocks away from the better-known black entertainment addresses along Pennsylvania Avenue. In the 1950s Anderson traveled over the world with Maurice Rocco. In this interview conducted by Andrew Fields, Anderson describes his experience studying with Llewellyn Wilson and A. Jack Thomas. In part 2 of the interview, Anderson and Fields look through Anderson's photograph collection.\u003c/p\u003e (abstract)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1985-03-10 (created)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Fields, Andrew (Interviewer)","Anderson, Howard E. 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Anderson performed in Atlantic City with the Grooveneers and toured with his wife, Sylvia Jones Anderson, as a duo called the Two Hot Peppers and a group called known as Three Strikes and a Miss. He and his group often appeared at Club Astoria, a musical bar at 1309 Edmondson Avenue. This nightspot was blocks away from the better-known black entertainment addresses along Pennsylvania Avenue. In the 1950s Anderson traveled over the world with Maurice Rocco. In this interview conducted by Andrew Fields, Anderson describes his experience studying with Llewellyn Wilson and A. Jack Thomas. In part 2 of the interview, Anderson and Fields look through Anderson's photograph collection.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eThe collection is open for use. 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Everybody crying. Teacher crying. \"Oh, here it comes.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=12.901,15.07"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e But that clears up a big problem with Douglass in 1925.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=15.07,20.43"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, from '25. I know I was up there the whole time. I mean he was there the whole time I was there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=22.989,28.44"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you said you first met him in '22?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=29.194,33.09"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. I was taking lessons from him and Nichols, up on McCulloh Street, and I got to the point where she said she couldn't teach me anymore, go to Mr. [W. Llewellyn] Wilson, so I went to Mr. Wilson. And I stayed with him for quite a while, stayed with him until went out of home. Then I was with A. Jack Thomas. I associated with Ernest Purviance to the teachers around who taught in their homes or would come to your house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=33.42,71.21"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Purviance also taught?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=71.268,73.267"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=73.267,73.267"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I saw him as a dancer or a kind of a front man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=74.09,79.927"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, he knew music, too, see. He did. He used to have little, well now, they weren't advanced classes like Llewellyn and Jack Thomas and all that. He was sort of in the beginner class with students that used to come to him. And most of them came to him, for a while in. Yeah. That's what I with him, associate with him. I used to play the piano. I was the accompanist for nearly everybody. Get Howard Anderson to play for you, get Howard. So, between, like you say, what church you belong to--my parents had me and John Wesley [phonetic] AME, Ebenezer AME. I'm trying to think of the name of the Catholic Church. There's one on one side of South Baltimore, one on one side of the bridge, one on the other side of the bridge. [Unclear] Baptist, St. Monica's and St. Barnabas [unclear]. I played in all those churches all the time. I'll be telling folks, crying about your first day of school, I used to cry every Sunday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=80.49,155.99"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Why is that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=155.992,155.992"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't want to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=155.992,161.68"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e You just didn't want to play?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=161.76,162.97"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I didn't want to play, so you get sick.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=163.353,165.65"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=165.881,167.54"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e And they had a wonderful remedy for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=167.695,170.36"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e What was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=170.75,170.752"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Castor oil.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=171.29,171.29"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e [Laughter] I've heard about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=171.37,174.86"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e And that would make you well without taking it. Yes. As soon as they say we'll get the castor oil and get a tablespoon, and guys up in front of you, you're going to take it or else you're going. You go. There you go. It wasn't so bad. I just didn't like to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=174.955,195.21"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Purviance, did he play keyboard or piano?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=197.582,201.18"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e He played little keyboard, like I say, he accompanied the students while they was trying to learn the violin. In the beginning, they wanted to come there for do-re-mi-fa-sol, like that. And that's what I remember him most for. He was on either [unclear] or [unclear] avenue. I think those two streets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=202.144,219.244"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e I just found out that Purviance and Ike Dixon took over the management of Wonderland Park.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=223.23,229.922"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=232.53,232.91"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you know anything about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=232.97,232.972"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know about the management part because when I was in Ike Dixon's band, I played in Wonderland Park quite a lot, quite a lot. And then up to a point where we used to have the Battle of Jazz. Three or four different bands would come down and play. I didn't at the time. He had a printing shop, see, on the Avenue [Pennsylvania Avenue]--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=235.02,263.613"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Which one? Purviance or Dixon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=264.589,265.39"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Dixon, he had the print shop too. And I never knew him to be associated [unclear] the Wonderland Park.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=266.46,274.702"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e I found that in 1924. I don't know how long it lasted. It might have lasted for a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=278.62,288.095"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, see now, it could have been possible because, at that time, it's [unclear] to me. I don't know anything about it because I'm not into that field out there. [unclear]. And at that time, I'm with this lady, Miss Ann Nichols. And all that business, I thought, well, that was completely off limits because I just didn't have to be associated with that kind of--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=288.98,315.148"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Ann Nichols, was she also a vocalist?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=316.79,318.816"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=320.839,320.839"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Or just a keyboard?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=320.872,321.075"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Just a teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=321.54,321.54"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Because I've run across her name in accompanists, churches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=323.12,325.94"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Well,, she might have done that, but she might have done it like I used to do it, play for the Sunday school, play for the late afternoon at six o'clock or afternoon church. Because, I don't know of her being in that capacity that much, but maybe she did. Maybe she didn't. Well, every time, like I say, my associating with the church had me playing. And of course, that was even before I went to high school, I was playing in the churches like that. I was around 15 years old, something like that. I hadn't even got to high school, yet. I was playing in all the churches and playing for the people to sing, give instrumental. One particular person who made quite a success in that, I think, is John Thomas. He created a musical saw back then, and he used to write. 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I mean, do they have to temper it in any way or is it just a regular saw?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=422.774,428.709"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no. It's not a regular saw. It is a regular saw if we think about the quality of it. It's got to be steel. See, it's got to be good steel saw. Just any old saw won't do it. So, I've got four or five saws around here. One of them may have enough steel in it to get rhythm and style of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=428.78,453.542"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, sure. Because it's got to bend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=453.542,453.542"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And the other ones, I know, it's good for someone. So, it's got to be a good saw, and it's got to be kept well, and I'd say when they [unclear], that's a different type of saw. You've got your case for it and all that--[unclear] the stuff--you don't want to touch it, you know, and you keep it well. I think they oil it, and take it all, some oil and put on it, something like a two in one and then dry it well and keep it dry well. You got to use the right amount rosin on the bow to get the resonance from it. Yeah. Because every now and then I run into Dave at a jam session somewhere. So he'll have it in his car. 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Did Ellington ever come to Baltimore and play in any of these sessions, like when he was playing with Doc Perry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=503.029,539.322"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. I never saw him come here to play in any of the jam sessions that we used to have around here, because when I was in them, it was small groups at that time, seven or eight. They didn't have the full capacity of the band, and the jam sessions that were held were in--let me see, what do you call it, Fishermen Hall, or Galilean Hall, or Good Hope Hall. The Odd Fellows and the Elks. But as far as I can say, Duke Ellington? 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He wasn't that far away from it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=582.79,591.12"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Here, I just found this the other day. 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Just reading, or was it more hearing oriented?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=661.72,674.59"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I started off, like you say, reading, dexterity, and improvement, individuality of the left hand, the right hand. And then as we went along, you know, different grades--upgrade, upgrade, upgrade, and he took with me into stuff like--getting to the point where the lessons got a little expensive. And when I started studying theory and harmony and stuff in books, sometimes we don't even touch the piano. Sit there, discuss it. You started, and you read, who did this, and what's this. Explain this musical terminology. And then other times he would come back [unclear]. Play some more. Can you play this? If not, play it next time I come.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=677.493,737.789"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e And then I had to ask him, I'm out here doing such and such. And I said, well, why is it so difficult for me to play in the sharp key? He said, because you don't practice. And I said, no, but it seemed to be hard. He said, no, it's just because you don't practice. If you're playing in your easy key, some part of it, the transition, is going to go into these other keys, and you play it there, don't you? So, it's no different. I said, yeah, well I'm playing it in E, A, D, C. He said, well, there's E-flat and B-flat in that song. It's just different up there in the key signature. You hit these keys when you're playing, and when you're playing or freelancing by yourself, you're playing these other things, and as long as you going to play music, you're going to come in contact with these things, so it's just a matter of fact. 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Because I played before him and playing around churches and their old concerts, we did. Some with a little singing in here and singing there, saxophone and violin solo, that sort of thing, around. I hadn't even come to a house party. You know, when I was going to high school, one of the teachers--they had me play for a party. Give me a dollar and a half. I didn't think, I don't want to be that classical stuff no more. Look what I've got in my hand. I had more fun, way more fun, so I told him. He said, yes. He used to tell me about his nightclub events. But I kept on studying. 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He said he's playing with--I don't know about the club he played in--back on Market Place down there. In a nightclub down there. 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All the Baltimore stories, there's a name--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=976.054,992.272"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Not Pike? 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Now he was a trumpet player. He was a very good trumpet player. Kanzler Randall. 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It's something that I said, I don't understand, don't understand that. And that's why we would just sit and talk. He used the example of tribal things. The way this tribe is doing this. This one is doing that. They're trying to get their message together. And while that one is doing this, this one is doing that. And then, all of a sudden, you hear it weave together, and you say that's what the book is trying to tell you. As soon as he did it like that, it looked like it was a great big opening within me. Because I said I had a problem like that in high school with my Latin. Just couldn't seem to get it. And this went on. And all of a sudden, I don't know what happened in the class, but it opened right up because I always said, I don't see why I needed that. And I don't know whether--because my family couldn't afford it. I had aspirations about being a doctor. I don't know where that went.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1025.52,1106.006"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e But that's what it was all about. And I just figured I've got to know that, you've got to know that. Because we had a piano, that's why the lessons came. I wanted a saxophone. They didn't have the money to buy it, so we learned on what's available. We lived in a house with a very long living room and we had a piano on that end and a piano on that end. A cousin of mine, Joe Bailey [phonetic], he was either on one or the other. And he'd be learning. I was learning. We both were learning at the same time. He was quite the piano player, not famous for it. He played along like I did. I think, as a matter of fact, in the jazz world, at that particular time, he was better than I was because I had stayed with church music and quiet music. And he's out there with the--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1106.41,1167.475"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you ever hear Wilson play jazz piano?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1169.28,1173.9"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Only when he when he showed me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1175.1,1176.72"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e What was his style like? Did he have style?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1176.845,1179.281"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, that was it. Because during that time, piano players never kept in their left hand still like they do today. He was always going and going and going and going. And that's something else I was saying, I had a problem with that. Like Melvin [Spears]. Melvin can't do it well, but he can do it, say for maybe a minute, maybe not quite a minute, but to play so long for three minutes, four minutes and keep that thing going, a la James P. Johnson, Fats Waller, and all of them people. Now, we had some around here. They didn't know music. Frank Johnson, I think he was about the best around here. Buster Ball [phonetic], Jerome Washington [phonetic]. They were the guys who played in the black keys, and they could keep it going all the time, from the time they start the song to the time they ended the song. Yeah, they kept it going. Way back then, I had another--[unclear]. I had an uncle named Howard Bailey [phonetic]. He was a friend along with Eubie Blake, and Blake used to go from house to house. House party, house party, house party. Eubie Blake used to come around, well, he knew my family. He's coming around the house all the time. And he'd come in and play that piano.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1180.25,1283.14"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you mean Blake studied with Wilson, also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1284.95,1286.651"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember that because I can't--when I think of Eubie being 100 years old and he said he started with Llewellyn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1286.683,1301.02"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when he was an adult.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1301.92,1302.31"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, trying to pick up some--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1303.99,1305.4"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e He wanted to study composition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1305.94,1306.3"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, oh, oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1307.02,1307.304"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e This was like in late teens before he went to--.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1308.746,1310.94"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1311.15,1311.18"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e But Wilson's anniversary is 100 years in March.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1313.126,1319.115"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. You see, when you put it that way, because all I knew of Eubie Blake was what my parents told me, because I had never seen anything, and how he played piano [unclear]. It's like my uncle could play that way, but he died and I never heard anything. The way Eubie played sometimes. I used to listen to him and laugh, and say nobody plays that way anymore [unclear]. Anyone who makes up the tune should be good at it because it's never wrong. It's the way you play it. They can't say it's wrong. I wrote it. It's the way I want to go. That's enough, because when you come to the song that you don't write, today, you're going to have to play it [unclear]. You can do whatever you want for a song nowadays.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1321.539,1385.708"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you give me a personal profile of what Wilson's personality was like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1389.095,1397.844"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e With me? No, I don't--not with me. With the class. It's a pleasure to go to his class all the time because if you'd been to the other classes, and you go in his class, he had this brightening, this uplifting, because wasn't harsh on the class or nothing like it. Let's come on. Let's sing. Let's be merry. This is not math. This is not science. This is not physics or anything. This is just singing. Listen to me. Do this. Now you do it. It's just that easy. You don't have to do no other writing, studying. No homework or test for it. Only homework, keeping it here. You sing that note. Now you sing that, and let's do it together. Then by the end of 30 minutes' time, to get them all on course together. It accomplished something. And that's the way it was going in there with him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1401.151,1459.882"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e And then sometime he had to go out. \"Anderson take over the class while I'm gone.\" And that's when the fun really started. I never said that when he come back, he said \"how did things go?\" I said, \"All right. I guess.\" [Unclear]. Cat's away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1459.92,1483.978"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e He used to come to my house, and I'll be doing something and he'd be sitting up there, his schedule was so heavy and hefty. He's sitting in the chair, and I'd look at him [unclear]. \"You're not doing it right.\" I got used to that after a while. No matter what he was doing, I did my best with it. I said, he's not sleeping. But he's got that subconsciousness where he could rest, but he knows what he's supposed to hear, and anything contrary to that was like an alarm clock, it'll wake him up. As long as you did it right, it was soothing. But as soon as you hit that contrary note, it was \"that's not right.\" Go ahead again. Start back at A, or start back at the sign and do it again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1486.808,1539.61"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e One time when I was at school taking lessons from my other teacher, he said, it's time to go take a lesson. Housekeeping, that sort of thing, but it wasn't that way going to him. I guess, then, plus the fact that he tells the story with his music and then he made some of it coincide with what you are doing. You're going to play this out there, you're going to play this out there, you know, and I talked to him. He said, you want people to like what you're doing. So, that's the way to do it. Do it, and do your best. And I disliked music for a long time, but when you get the pat on the back, then you begin to like it and realize within yourself that the more you play, and the better you play, the more pats you're going to get. He installed that into you, too. Do your best at all times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1545.3,1603.53"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e In any course of these lessons, did he ever mention any of these teachers' names as being outstanding to you? Or maybe you might know of them? Any teachers that really influenced him that he might have mentioned to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1607.039,1625.75"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no. I was reading these. And then you wrote there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1625.846,1631.81"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e They were all from Peabody Conservatory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1632.62,1633.64"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Yeah. And my association with the Peabody was very brief.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1634.55,1640.39"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. You told me about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1640.573,1642.18"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know any of those. Harry Pratt. He used to be a principal at the school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1642.194,1659.416"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Douglass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1659.78,1659.827"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1660.55,1661.55"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e He was also a virtuoso violinist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1661.692,1662.5"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1662.5,1664.49"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you ever hear the chamber ensemble that he had in the '20s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1672.75,1678.72"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e No, Rivers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1680.91,1681.098"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e No. Wilson. He had a chamber ensemble where Wilson played cello.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1682.39,1687.36"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e Cello, he never said anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1687.36,1688.98"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAndrew Fields:\u003c/strong\u003e And it was with T. 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And [William] Tyers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908#t=1739.651,1742.44"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116908/transcript/31911/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHoward \"Church\" Anderson:\u003c/strong\u003e He used to come to my house, too. Will Marion Cook would. Associating around in my house. All these people who my family knew better than me, at least my father and mother did, because they were older, but they came around and they'd talk, and at least, when they came around in my house, it wasn't music. 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I said yeah. So I played her this thing, and she was downtown on 52nd Street, and every time they got off while playing from ten o'clock to six o'clock in the morning, and when they finished, they would come, hanging their clothes up. And then the performers would come in, sing, there's one who plays horn. Just jam. [Unclear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1.99,49.67"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e How about this? A confusing name that's been coming up is Reverend Charles Stewart of the Cosmopolitan --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=52.43,62.651"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend who?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=64.989,65.082"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Charles Stewart","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=65.31,65.376"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Charles Stewart.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=65.91,67.11"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e He was with the Cosmopolitan Choir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=71.71,74.28"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e What? 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Yeah, well, see my only connection with Trinity was lessons, because at that time, like I said, at that time, I lived in South Baltimore and I attended Ebenezer AME Church. 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John Wesley, Ebenezeer Baptist -- I mean Leadenhall Baptist. And then while I was going to high school, I used to play over on 23rd Street and an insurance man used to come to the house and collect for insurance. I played piano, so he said \"We need someone to play for legal\" [unclear]. So I had to go there every Sunday and play. Then between that one and down the street with Ebenezer Baptist Church I played there and right up street on 23rd Street was where Lawson [phonetic] served there. Of course, he died. You never mentioned [Lawson].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=109.66,156.899"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, he died in the '60s. Yeah. In fact, I heard him play quite a few times when I was just in high school, I remember. My parents liked to take me to dinner. He would be there playing. He was quite a piano player himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=157.59,169.126"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e He had the spot that Spaeth [unclear] had. [He] was just about the most popular Black piano player. 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He was studying organ with her. Pike's wife was quite an organist. I know he was studying with her on the organ. I'll try to talk about these people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=189.75,213.85"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, take a look at that list there. I got Eubie Blake. I know about him. And Cab Calloway studied with Wilson. 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Roy was telling me last night, that's when he came here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=426.37,432.1"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. When he came here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=432.58,434.92"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. 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For thirteen pieces? Or did you just -- ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=627.95,632.09"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e I used to write it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=633.289,633.523"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e You wrote?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=633.345,634.19"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e It was easy. Your first, your third, and your fifth. We had three [unclear]. Winds. We had trombone and violin, piano, bass, and trumpet. 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I found out the less complicated you made it, the easier it was for me to play and better it sounds, as opposed to trying to put whole lot of nuisance. Some of the guys are missing it [unclear]. And knowing the range of the instrument, don't make it too high or too low. And it's just the popular songs, you know. Just a matter of everybody's got to have something to play. And you can buy an orchestration. 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All I'm doing in my arranging, sometimes let somebody make the break in it, individually, and the rest of them ain't got to be scrambling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=717.26,734.103"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Getting through the turnaround.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=735.54,736.17"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. You do the same thing if you're going to have a change of key. [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=736.77,747.42"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e So, in other words, A. Jack Thomas booked you on those jobs? Is that how it worked?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=747.698,756.065"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e I did the booking because I was more familiar with the nightclubs than A. Jack. He's dealing with his music and all that sort of thing. He wasn't going to go around. He didn't have to. It just wasn't one of his things, but because of his association with a band, he could give me more advice on the band. I think this chord. I think that chord. And then he helped me to learn how to write for the violin because I didn't know how to write for violin. Because violin was the instrument I never liked. Of course with violin today, you make more money than anybody. So he would tell you how that goes. See, the thing about it with him was he played all the instruments. So, You want to know how this go or what that is. How high can this thing go and how high can that go. He'll tell you all that. And then when we had a rehearsal, he'd be there, and listen to you say you ought to do this. And then his name, when it comes to putting it up, his name drew a lot of people. Professor A. Jack Thomas and his band. I might stomp them off and he'd stomp them on. There you go. He'd just put the upbeat or the downbeat, whether it's under or in and out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=758.64,859.695"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Did Wilson continue with club playing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=864.76,866.82"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=866.918,866.918"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Throughout his career?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=866.95,866.95"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e No, when I met him, he wasn't playing in a club band. He was into his teaching both school and music, the choir, the ensembles, you don't know, and then his own home his kids and everything else. Didn't have a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=869.34,892.42"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e How about his voice? How would you characterize it? As a tenor, bass?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=895.21,898.092"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e His voice to me wasn't very -- he didn't have a heavy voice. He had a tenor voice. He wasn't a bass in talking or nothing like that. He just had his talking voice, wasn't high, wasn't low.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=899.099,912.458"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Did he ever sing with or for the choirs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=917.53,919.6"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I wasn't with his choir long, in the class. He was humming. \"It goes like this\" [hums]. Like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=919.749,929.653"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e So he wasn't really a singer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=931.47,932.11"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Not to my knowledge. Not like that, no. I'd say, he sings like John Williams [phonetic] sings. While he's going. When you're playing, you're singing. You want to go that way. This is how you keep up with your whole orchestration. You sing along with it, with the melody, contrary to hear what the other one is doing or supposed to be doing. You're trying to mix them all up together, but you're humming [hums] and then you would jump off of that to bring his part in. You know, whatever he's supposed to do. Then you come back just to keep it going. And that's the way he would do it, the same way. He would be up. If he got the class to the point where we're ready to do it on a song. Let's go and I'll hum and sing along with you. And if there's a part where you come, jump on your part and help you come on, with the right note, and he'd bring it on in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=932.95,993.954"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e I got a question for you. In 1923, Wilson passed a test in Baltimore City Schools, where they wanted to make him music supervisor, assistant supervisor, and he turned it down the first time and wanted to stay at Waesche Street School. Do you know if he ever actually took the position or how long he kept it? Because Ulysses Chambers [phonetic] originally had it, and then he left and went to Cincinnati, and then Wilson was supposed to take it, again. I was just wondering if you recalled if he ever took that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=994.37,1040.2"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. But if you want to find out about whether he took that job at Waesche Street, you should ask Charlie Harris because Charlie Harris went to that school. That was right in the neighborhood where Charlie Harris lived. Charlie lived right around the corner of Biddle Street, right around the corner from the school. Lexington is surrounded by Fremont, Saratoga, Lexington, and --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1040.92,1068.97"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Fremont and Pine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1070.41,1070.884"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Fremont and Pine. Right down in there next to the market, about two or three miles from Lexington Market.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1072.48,1077.141"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Is the building still here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1077.8,1078.81"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I think they tore -- no, all that's private. Yeah. Yeah, they tore all the Waesche Street and [unclear] Street schools down. I think it's private down in there. But Charles isn't even down in there. He might go through there. I think Waesche Street is gone -- the school's gone. I know that one. But he can tell you more because he lived down there and he went to that school. And when I lived down in that neighborhood, I lived in the 900 block of Lexington, then I was going to Douglass. Anything about Waesche Street, you ask Charles. That's his territory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1081.06,1130.317"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. You mentioned over the phone that day about Wilson's home and how it was filled with books and people in the family played instruments --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1131.1,1143.51"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Everybody played instruments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1145.58,1145.581"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Can give me give me some idea about his first wife, Irene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1146.45,1148.61"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e All I used to do, is go and speak to her. \"Hi, Mrs. Wilson. How are you?\" And she said, \"Hello, Howard.\" And she had a baby her arms, then. I guess that was the newest baby, then. One of the kids would be on the xylophone, one would be on the violin, and one would be on the cello, and they all would be practicing and the radio playing and everything would be going on at the same time, around then. My lesson with cost five dollars, that's when I was studying that theory and harmony. I was supposed to sift the ashes and take the crinkles [unclear] out, and bring the reburnable things back in and straighten out. He would say, \"Any music you need, go up and attic. Any books you see up there that can help, you need, you just take them.\" And from time to time, I would go up there, but it was like wading through four feet of snow. That's how many books he had up there. And I said, \"Did you read all those books?\" And he said, \"Yes, I read every one. I went through all of that.\" He said, of course. And a matter of a lesson. He said, \"You'd be surprised when you study this book. When you finish it, you throw it on its side [unclear].\" And it's time for another, and then you're doing two or three books at one time. You just don't read one book a day. You keep on because you use one book for reference to provide support for the other one and you have to keep on reading. I'd just read. Sometimes it came very interesting and sometimes became boring. I guess later on, I began playing, make a dollar, have fun out there. [Unclear] -- what's the use? Until I got to the point when I was in Ike Dixon, I first would become engaged in the battle of music [bands] against each other. And this musician would write this this way, and write that that way. Then you become more interested in reading. And then I would talk to the other guy. I've been in quite a few of them old bands. Band hopping. Band jumping. And you meet this one, that and the other, nearly all of the used to write.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1151.16,1291.87"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e I know William Jr. played the saxophone. And then Eleanor played piano. Did his wife play anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1292.95,1301.866"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Not that I know of. The boy, he played down on the [Pennsylvania] Avenue. I was in life up here, and the daughter, I never saw her playing out here. But then, I don't know. He was playing out here. He got in trouble, social trouble, hanging out with the gangs. But he was down to spot and play. He was a good musician. Maybe his musicianship led him into trouble. It can. You're good, everybody will say, come hang with me, and that's something that traveling company was bad for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1302.99,1344.6"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I heard that. Is it true that he committed suicide?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1345.11,1347.9"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know what he did. He disappeared off the scene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1348.89,1352.25"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Because I heard that from a neighbor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1353.15,1354.02"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e He disappeared off the scene. Because the thing about me is after that I was in and out of the band. I was out more than I was in, playing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1355.25,1367.13"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e In the '30s, '40s?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1367.245,1368.599"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah. I was out, '30s, '40s, '50s, '60s. I was gone most of the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1369.65,1376.49"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e What were some of the groups you were with? You mentioned that one guy, where he had to redo your hair or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1376.614,1385.68"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e That was the thing where everybody used to comp [unclear] their hair. That was a thing. Everybody used to. You want your hair real straight then. Coal black. And then next time Atlantic City had some mousse. After you straighten your hair, you put that in it. Stick your head in it. And you'd be doing a Cab Calloway. And then associated with Maurice Rocco. 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Oh, I have pictures of him. One of the early groups I was with in Atlantic City. Grooveneers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1444.937,1469.07"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a neat name. Do you remember those guys?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1473.33,1475.32"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Jack [Johnson], Cecil [Austin], Betty [unclear], and myself. Cecil's still with me. And this is Jenkins. He played the drums, sang, and played saxophone. Yeah. Don Abner [phonetic]. You heard of Don Abner? Dizzy Gillespie. 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Yeah, right here in Baltimore. Down at Gamby's. He was around here for a while. I had a little band in there, so he played in there with me. [Unclear] was there at the time, I think, Red Fox [jazz club]. That Avenue was quite something else. And I had this a long time. That's in the '30s. 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He did everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1783.874,1790.778"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Is he still alive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1790.797,1791.29"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, he's somewhere in the country. I don't know where. Last time he was traveling around the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1791.309,1795.85"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Still active playing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1796.51,1797.41"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e No, he's a photographer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1797.98,1798.605"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1799.57,1799.57"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e That's at a party for Eubie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1809.1,1810.82"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e These are some pretty nice photos. And your brother took all those?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1815.579,1817.096"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1817.69,1819.15"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Those are some nice photos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1819.156,1819.156"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, he's got a camera. You know, he can set it. Here's two fellows who used to work with me. Jenkins and Cecil.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1819.56,1825.16"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you mentioned his name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1825.162,1826.661"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So when we broke up and I had my duo, then he had his duo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1826.661,1833.104"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e What was her first name? Cecil?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1835.59,1836.71"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e His name was Cecil Austin and the other boy's name is Orin Jenkins [phonetic].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1838.3,1843.187"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e She sings all over. You know Miss Dallem [phonetic]? She's a music teacher downtown. She teaches quite a few of the popular singers around town.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1855.82,1869.395"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e And whose funeral is this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1870.885,1870.95"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e That's my younger brother. [Unclear] He worked for social services. My brother in New York took all of these. That's where we were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1870.988,1894.02"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e I wish I could find that picture down at The Afro [newspaper]. They can't find it for me. Because that's a nice photo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1894.8,1898.993"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e You can --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1899.47,1899.63"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e I've tried. You know, you can't. It's hard to lift it off of the --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1901.34,1904.482"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eHOWARD \"CHURCH\" ANDERSON:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you can't get a picture of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1905.36,1907.4"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eANDREW FIELDS:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, because, see, like this other, they had the picture in the file, but it's pretty hard now to get this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1907.76,1916.67"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909/transcript/31910/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/43845/file/116909#t=1918.05,1918.058"}]}]}]}