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Your full name is --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1.29,5.639"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e My full name is Audrey Cyrus McCallum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=6.15,9.06"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e And your address?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=10.23,10.68"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e My address is -- [REDACTED].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=11.49,12.831"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Baltimore, Maryland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=18.23,19.25"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e The date and place you were born.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=22.129,23.66"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I was born in Timminsville, South Carolina. And the date is September 28, 1938.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=24.5,33.2"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e And can you tell us a little bit about your education, including your elementary, high school --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=35.93,40.426"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. As a student, I began elementary school at School 113. It doesn't exist anymore. It used to be on Greenmount and I don't know the other street. All I can remember is that it was in front of the Green Mount Cemetery. I was transferred from there to School 116, which was on Aisquith Street at that time. I graduated and went to Dunbar High School, where I did a lot with the choirs in accompanying. During those years, I studied with Ms. Miriam Sachs, who was on the faculty at the Peabody Preparatory School, and she did so much for me. I can't do the interview without mentioning her name. She is responsible for my career development and for the musical standards that I have developed for myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=41.06,113.2"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e She was a very dignified woman and of course she still lives. She is eighty-one, I think, this year, and I had the opportunity of seeing her last year at a reception sponsored by her friends, and they were able to contact me so that I could be a part of it. At that time she saw fit to take me on and pay for my lessons or give them to me without charge at the Peabody Preparatory School around 1955, I believe it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=114.4,147.01"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And then I graduated in 1956 from the Preparatory school and went on to the Conservatory on a Senatorial Scholarship that paid my entire way for the four years. I received a Bachelor of Music degree in music education with piano as an emphasis, and I had a wonderful piano teacher -- all of my teachers were wonderful, but Julio Esteban was my piano teacher at the Conservatory and he was wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=148.0,193.6"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e After graduating from the Conservatory with a Bachelor of Music degree, I began teaching at the high school that I had attended, which was Dunbar High School. I taught there for six years. And meanwhile, I did go back to to get my master's degree in music education, and that was received in 1967. So I did teach in several other schools other than Dunbar I had taught in Harlem Park Middle [School] -- was junior high at that time -- for a year. Then I was transferred from there -- I wanted high school, so I went to City College High School for one year and after that I was transferred to Western Senior High School and I taught there. It's an all girls' school, probably the oldest and best, as we used to say, and I taught there for twenty-two years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=195.76,271.6"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Altogether, I think I had at least thirty years because I retired in 1990, and Dr. Nathan Carter asked me to please come to Morgan [State University] to consider teaching. And I just loved it because I thought it would give me an opportunity to work on the college level, and this had been a lifelong desire on my part. So currently, I'm still there and I love every minute of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=273.23,307.24"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe that I have grown in many, many ways. I love music. It's an awesome art and God has blessed me richly. All these years, and I don't know what else to say. Sometimes it's unbelievable. But I've enjoyed all the years at Peabody that I had there, and I sit on the steering committee of the Alumni Association with pride. I think this is the last year. We have three-year periods and I'm in, I think, the second year of this three-year term for the second time, and I enjoy being a part of this school again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=308.23,360.19"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So I feel that I have had a wonderful career in this in this art, and I'm happy to see that during my lifetime I can realize the actual history being made and that I am truly a part of it. And I really had no idea that I was the first to have graduated from the Preparatory School. But I do recall that my teacher had given me the scholarship there. So I thought that I was, but I never worried about it. And then when I was approached and had the opportunity of finding that out, I was very happy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=362.17,419.25"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a great accomplishment. So you say you were born in South Carolina. At what time did your family move to Baltimore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=420.65,426.65"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e We came to Baltimore probably when I was maybe a year old, I don't really know the exact year. We were here several years before I entered school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=427.34,442.34"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so most of your schooling was in Baltimore. What did you do? Where did you live? Where did your family live?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=443.04,448.167"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e When we first came to Baltimore, I recall living with an uncle, I believe it was on Lafayette Avenue, but you know, I was very young, so I don't remember. We finally moved within, I guess four years or so, we moved to 915 Forrest Street, which was just across the street from the Maryland Penitentiary. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=452.41,473.588"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So when I entered Peabody, we still lived on Forrest Street and I would walk to school every day. And as a matter of fact, when I was at the Conservatory, I was able to walk home maybe twice a day or three times a day because it only took about ten minutes. And I remember sometimes I would go up Monument [Street] because there was a steep hill and being young at that time, I felt like walking up the hill rather than down the hill. So sometimes I would go to Peabody that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=477.01,516.309"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Good exercise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=517.539,517.688"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Good exercise, but I didn't think of the exercise. I just liked the idea of walking up the hill. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=517.718,521.59"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e When did you start becoming interested in music? Was it at a young age? Were there people in your family who were involved in music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=525.82,531.311"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm glad you asked that question because I think I really got my talent from my dad, who played ragtime by ear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=532.15,543.31"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=543.97,543.97"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And when I was a little girl, I had no idea it was ragtime. Now that I remember and look back, that's what they played in his day and and he played by ear. He played for home parties and I guess other socials. And there weren't that many because it was in the South, so there weren't many places to go at that time. So I'm sure I received my talent from his side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=544.51,573.58"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Did he encourage you or was it something -- [crosstalk]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=574.54,576.748"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no -- there was a lady in my block who played a little bit. And her name was Ms. Bailey or Mrs. Bailey, I don't know which, but anyway, she took me to her home and started me out. And then, of course, my mother realized that I needed some kind of training by a person who was more skilled in the art of music. So my pastor's wife -- he was the Reverend Eugene T. Grove, he is dead now -- but his wife, Mrs. Ursilla Grove [phonetic], actually gave me my real first piano lesson. And she taught me for several years, and then the church decided that they would pay for my lessons. And they did for many, many years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=577.27,637.13"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Was that something that was common?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=638.98,639.259"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e It was common, I believe, in those days. Youngsters who were in the churches -- There apparently were not many, as there are today. But I recall that my pastor took a great interest in my ability, and I was given the opportunity of playing for several of the choirs at church and for young people's prayer meeting and choir rehearsals and even the senior choir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=639.86,670.19"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And one day someone came to my home and I don't know the name, and she I was playing at that time. And she mentioned Ms. Miriam Sachs to my mother and we of course called her to see if she could take me on. And she did. And recently, when I saw her last year, she indicated that it was not very popular for White people to take -- Well in her case, her family did not want her to take me on. But she did. And that was a very courageous thing to do. And I think it was just meant to be because she was just a fabulous teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=671.38,725.26"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Had she asked you to play before?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=726.31,726.52"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I did play for her at that time, and of course, after those years, she must have seen something in my ability. I've been given a wonderful ear by God, so I remember sitting in on -- well, I had to take ear training at the Preparatory School. There were four levels of air training and I took every one of them. And Ms. [Bessie Hahn] Lippy, I believe was the name of the teacher at that time. And she just told me, you don't need to take the first level anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=728.86,763.48"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So I took levels two, three and four in one year, and then I graduated from the Preparatory School. And now, as a matter of fact, I'm teaching aural skills at Morgan now, so I enjoy it thoroughly. And besides my teaching I play. I'm retired from teaching in the public schools after thirty years -- in 1999, I retired. And Dr. Carter did ask me to come to Morgan and I love what I'm doing. I love what I teach -- oral skills; I teach keyboard harmony. And as a matter of fact, I do hymn improvizations and concerts, and I enjoy doing that. I'm going to play for the homecoming social at the cafe. I believe it is on the nineteenth of this month. I'm doing just some popular music and improvise on show tunes and whatever. I've been asked to do that and do it with pride.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=764.65,828.28"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So currently I'm teaching. In the near future, though, I am planning to probably retire completely because I will be sixty-five next year and I can get my Social Security. I will get my full Social Security. I am thinking of maybe keeping my church job. I do play as an organist at Providence Baptist Church. And I play there two Sundays out of each month. I do a lot of accompanying. I enjoy that. I have been blessed with the ability to read at sight. So I'm doing what I like to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=831.22,878.26"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e When you were going through middle school and high school, you were obviously involved in more the choral side instead of the instrumental side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=880.0,889.299"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I was not involved with the instrumental program. However, I did accompany, I think, and I'm glad you asked that because I don't want to forget any of these people who have really been a part of my life. One of my mentors -- I have many -- one mentor that I loved dearly, and she's dead now, is Ms. Mildred Williams [phonetic], who was my high school music teacher. And I remember the first day she said to me, \"Put on your card 'accompanist.'\" and, you know, at the time, I guess I was somewhat shocked because I couldn't imagine that she'd ask me to accompany the choir, and I probably didn't even realize my abilities at the time. But this was seventh grade and I accompanied the girls choir that she had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=889.33,946.49"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And then I finally became the accompanist for the mixed choir under another mentor, Ms. Venares Williams [phonetic], who was the director of the mixed choir. And of course, I had another mentor there, and that was Mrs. Jeannette Blount [phonetic], who took me under her wings and I accompanied her boys' choir. So I've had a lot of experience with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=947.39,977.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e During my lifetime, I've played for many choral groups. One group -- since we're talking about all these groups that I've played for -- I have played for the group called the Great Hymns Choir. And at the time, that choir was directed by Reverend Daniel Rideout, who was an administrator in the Methodist Church. And he started this choir, probably, I don't know -- I'm assuming it was probably in the '40s, maybe the late '40s because I became involved in the 1950s with the choir and I played for them and we went to many churches and performed. And we did Handel's Messiah every year at Christmastime. And we did it for over twenty years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=978.95,1038.24"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And I played with several gentlemen who would play the organ and I would play the piano and one was Spencer Hammond. And then later I played with Dr. Max Statham, who has written several works and I have played for presentations of his works with him. And of course, there was another gentleman who took over choir and you probably -- in fact, I know you have some information from him because he was in the first exhibit that we had on Black music from the Reconstruction through the present, and that was Mr. Morris Queen who has played at Sharp Street Memorial Methodist Church for over fifty years, and that's where we would do the Messiah every year. So he began to continue that and I played for him for many years, and he is about to retire, I understand, in May.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1040.369,1113.88"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And of course, there were other groups who have asked me around the city to play. I used to play for Mr. James Holliman, who was a band director, and he taught on the East Side of Baltimore, and many youngsters came to learn to play instruments. And I would walk from Forrest Street all the way up to Bond Street. He lived in the 1600 block at that time, and I would walk every Saturday to Bond Street and back to play for his band, and I enjoyed it, but sometimes it was very cold in those days and that was during the early '50s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1114.96,1166.05"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And Mr. Holliman was a wonderful band director. He started a band in in the church where I played -- at Grace Memorial Baptist Church -- and his wife taught piano, so she had many students. They had a young lady -- she was their daughter -- who played. She was a very fine pianist who went to Oberlin and then transferred to Juilliard to work on her master's degree. Actually, she graduated from Oberlin and and went to Juilliard to receive her master's degree. I believe she went on to to earn a doctorate in music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1167.34,1216.96"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I also played -- I think we can't leave this lady out -- and her name is Mercedes Douglas Wilson [phonetic], who used to have a Palm Sunday musical. For years, they would perform at Knox Presbyterian Church and then later, if I'm not mistaken, she moved it to the old Polytechnic High School, and she's still living. She's in her nineties now. But she would do works like the Seven Last Words, she would do the Mass in G by Schubert and other works. But those were the favorites, and many people would come to hear them. And we had an ensemble that accompanied along with my playing -- this ensemble came from the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, and they enjoyed it. Every year, they wanted me to be the accompanist. So we played together and I really got a thrill out of doing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1220.51,1292.15"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So we can't forget Mercedes Douglas Wilson because she contributed to my skill of accompanying. And certainly, it improved my sight-reading and -- She had started, but I was not a part of that group, but I remember we had a reception for her several years ago -- She had begun a girls' choir here in Baltimore. I don't remember the group because I was too young, I'm sure, at that time. But people who have sung with her would remember the name. Maybe I'll think of some other things in a few minutes. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1294.28,1339.222"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, that's fine. So you started actually playing at your church while you were still in school [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1339.46,1345.954"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e [crosstalk] -- Yes, I played probably at the age of, I would say, between seven and maybe nine years of age, I could play the hymns. So I actually played for the church. That's the gift that God gave me. I mean, I'm sure that he is responsible for everything that I have and everything that I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1346.45,1369.19"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I was blessed to to be able to attend several camps. These were Christian camps, though during the summer. I remember a minister by the name of Percy Crawford. And even at that time, we were able to meet the Reverend Billy Graham, who would come to several camps in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. This is where the Reverend Percy Crawford had a television ministry, too, and a radio ministry. And we had the opportunity of going to camp several times and I had the opportunity of meeting the Reverend Billy Graham.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1371.92,1410.77"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And at that time I would play for a young man who was at our church who went to camp. His name is James [Allen] McDonald, who sings -- well, he did sing for Benny Hinn, but he has also performed for Billy Graham. [McDonald] had a terrific baritone voice and he was a student at the school at Dunbar High School at one time and he came to the church where I played, so I would accompany him all the time. And then when he went to camp with us, and by the way, the camps were separate. We had Mountain Brook was for girls and Shadow Brook was for boys, so he had the opportunity of singing for Billy Graham and I accompanied him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1411.76,1461.13"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So as a student, I would listen to all of the radio and TV programs, and I guess I just listened to the pianist and and with my ability, pick up some things from that day. I play an Evangelical style of playing. I think it's quite unique and it's a God-given gift, and I enjoy it thoroughly. So along with my teaching, I also do individual concerts with the improvization of hymn styles, and I also do a lot of accompanying for soloists. And I've done it all my life -- well, practically all my life. So I've had a rich experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1461.94,1513.9"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. Tell me about some of your friends that you were involved with --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1514.68,1518.92"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Some of my friends [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1518.94,1520.559"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e -- when you were younger, and what you guys did [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1521.949,1522.359"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e -- [crosstalk] When I grew up as a teenager, there really was not much to do unless I was going to a concert or whatever. And we were involved in the church a lot. So you know, we'd have social things, like we had picnics and we'd go to the beach because we could -- I don't even remember, I think one was Carr's Beach. And then we would go to -- Maybe we didn't go to the Enchanted Forest [amusement park] because I don't even know whether that existed, but we went to the beaches or we'd go to a church picnic and maybe something at the church. We would have a six o'clock evening kind of film, I guess you could call it. It was a Christian film that was shown every Sunday at six o'clock at the church and we would pack the church just to come to see the film at church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1526.319,1577.77"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And then, of course, we would have programs put on by young people and sometimes the adults. And we we enjoyed those things. Most of my friends would visit, you know, I would visit their homes and they would visit my home and we would go to the movie. I mean, I didn't like to roller skate, so I didn't go there, even though they may have gone roller skating. I didn't like to roller skate or ice skate at that time. I was busy. I was always out playing for something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1578.58,1612.87"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Another thing that I did that I almost forgot -- I played for what was called the Good News Club. They had them in my church. And then I remember going to Chick Webb Center to play what we called \"action songs\" for youngsters to learn to sing. And there was an adult who would accompany me. And her name was Ms. Cecilia Crawford [phonetic]. And she would give a Bible story with a flannel board and the youngsters could actually visualize what she was talking about. So I got to do that at several churches, and we did this for maybe four or five years as a youngster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1613.56,1665.52"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So I never really had time to be out in the street as maybe some others did, and there weren't that many places to go. If the circus came to town, maybe we went to see that or we would go to the zoo or whatever, to Druid Hill Park, because in the early days there was really nothing to do. I was involved with my music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1665.94,1688.83"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e The friends that I had at the [Peabody] Conservatory -- of course, the White friends that I had -- And I have the privilege of teaching with one student who was there with me, and that's Betty Ridgeway, who is the head of the voice department at Morgan, and she was a student at Peabody at that time. I wasn't extremely close to her then, but I remember her very well. She was behind me. And we have the Black friends that I knew well. (And I had many friends.) One was Junetta Jones, who was in school with me, and the other was Veronica Tyler. As a matter of fact, we came there together and we graduated together. We were the first to receive our Bachelor of Music degree. There was another young man, but I didn't know this at the time. His name was Paul Brent, who was the first, I understand, to come to the Conservatory, but he was there for three years. I believe he received a teacher's certificate before we graduated in 1960. And we, of course, were the first to receive the Bachelor of Music degree. I went back in 1967 to earn the master's degree. Or, that's when I earned it. I really had begun studying before that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1691.38,1790.88"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Also, I can recall another young woman who came there after I did, and that was Jeannette Walters. She's not living at the present time, but she was an outstanding singer. She sang with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra many times and went on to sing all over the country, and I believe she became a member of the Theater Chamber Players. One of our piano faculty members at the Conservatory was and still is, I believe, director of that group. I'm trying to remember his name. It's been so long ago. Maybe I will before before this interview is over. But anyway, her dad would take me to school every day that I taught for thirty years. He drove a cab. And he would drive me to school, pick my mom up and bring my mother to my home to keep my children, and he would take me to school. And then, of course, my family would pick me up in the evenings. But I knew their family well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1793.45,1871.04"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And there were other friends. A young woman by the name of Loretta Foster [phonetic], who left the school a couple of years after she came there. Another student was Percy Brown, who graduated and left to teach. He received his Bachelor of Music degree. I saw him a few years ago and he'd become a supervisor of music up in New York. Also, there is a young lady who was very close to me years ago in middle school -- wasn't middle school, it was junior high school, then -- at Dunbar, but she left to go to Douglass High School. And I think from there she went to Western. Her name is Myrtle Mack. Well, she's Dutton now -- Myrtle Mack Dutton. And she and I were very close. I have played for her in concert over the years, and she went on to receive her master's. As a matter of fact, I think she received her master's before I did and even worked towards credits in her doctorate degree in music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1875.509,1949.22"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So we had a good time there, at Peabody. At least I had never had any problems in those early days and I worked hard to achieve my goal and to keep my scholarship. I had a Senatorial State Scholarship and I kept my average up and I kept it until I graduated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1950.3,1978.29"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And I'm really very, very thankful that I had the opportunity of going to school there at that time, because I understand now the tuition is so much higher than it was then. [Laughter] When I tell my students at Morgan how much I paid -- I didn't pay, but [what] it cost at that time -- they can't believe it. It was $600 to go to school there then, and I understand now it's about 33,000?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=1979.7,2012.59"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e I thought tuition alone was 22,000-something. I don't think [crosstalk] --.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2015.47,2018.766"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e -- [crosstalk] Well, I think it's with room and board. I believe that's what I've been hearing, if you stay on campus and that's a whole lot more. So I'm glad I went then because I probably could not afford to pay the price now for what I received, as I thought it was an excellent and outstanding education, and I would not trade it for anything or anybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2019.08,2044.93"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Since you brought up roller skating, Elizabeth [Schaaf] told me that at the [Baltimore] Coliseum there was a jazz performer that used to play [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2046.94,2055.249"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Well, I heard this on the Morgan radio station. I think the guy's name is Gary, and his mom -- I know his mom. Could you turn it off and then maybe I can -- Can we go back? I can look it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2055.28,2085.429"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, his last name -- is it Scott?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2086.239,2088.475"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e No, his first name is Gary. And his last name is Ever-- [phonetic]. What is his last name? If you could --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2089.059,2094.879"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e It doesn't matter that much [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2095.909,2098.369"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e -- [crosstalk] All right. But I wanted to mention her. Can we do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2098.481,2103.08"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, we can stop it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2103.35,2104.22"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INTERRUPTION]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2107.67,2107.67"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Gary Ellerbe -- who has a program on the Morgan radio station -- I heard him say the other day that when he was a youngster, he used to travel to the Coliseum for roller skating. And I remember boxing and wrestling [being there] because my brothers would go to see boxing sometimes and they would also go to see wrestling. And he said that Shirley Scott would play the Hammond B-3 [organ], which I knew nothing about at that time and I didn't realize. So I have been wondering if she is a local person. In fact, I think he said she died last weekend and I didn't know that. But she would play the Hammond B-3 and they would roller skate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2111.38,2163.13"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I remember going there because I was also in a competition. Actually, we didn't call it competition. It was a talent show. The man who ran that -- I don't know how long the talent show lasted either, but it was a TV program and I played the piano. Then, of course, I want to watch because people had to write in for the people they voted for. And I recall playing the Chopin \"Waltz in C-sharp Minor\" the first time and the second time I went. I mean, I played. I remember playing the Debussy \"Clair de lune,\" but I did not win that time, but I remember that's where he had the talent shows -- in the Coliseum. And his name was Tom Hawkins [phonetic]. If there are people who are around my age, and I'm going to be sixty-four this year, maybe they might remember him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2164.03,2226.43"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure. Let's move on now to the Prep. Tell me again at what age you started going there. And Elizabeth also mentioned that there was another student who went with you to the Prep. I'm not sure if she meant also for free, or [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2229.399,2239.749"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e -- [crosstalk] No, at the time that I went to the Prep, I was the only one who had entered. Well, I can't say that either. I don't know that. I know that apparently, I was the first one to graduate from the Prep because my teacher has verified that. She has. Ms. Miriam Sachs actually paid for my lessons there, so she taught me, also, since she was on the faculty. And I do recall that there was another student who came at that time, but I think he probably dropped out. He did not graduate from the Preparatory School and I don't remember the name, but when I started, I can remember that I was the only one outside, you know, who came later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2239.749,2294.55"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Who were some of your teachers and tell me some of the classes you took again?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2295.96,2299.29"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Now the only people that I remember who taught me at the Preparatory School were Miriam Sachs, who was on the piano faculty and Ms. Lippy who taught ear training. And I didn't take any other courses other than those. Now, when I went to the Conservatory, I had, and I remember him very well -- I don't know whether he's dead or alive, but Haven Hensler was my theory teacher. And look, I was an A student in the class, and I enjoyed that class very much because I've used theory a lot in my career. I remember Louis Cheslock, who taught us in form and analysis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2299.77,2354.7"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I remember Mary Hunter, who was director of music education. I can't forget her. She was a wonderful woman. And I remember doing my student teaching under her and at that time I student taught at Douglass High School for the high school experience, and I student-taught at [William H.] Lemell Junior High School. That was under, well, Consuela Cox [phonetic] was the teacher in the classroom. Mary Hunter was still the director at that time. And then I did some elementary student teaching. We did it in three levels. We did elementary, junior high school, and senior high school because we began in our junior year. And I student taught at what is now a home for seniors. But it was on Reisterstown Road and Keyworth Avenues at that time. It was an elementary school. And I don't remember the name of it. I think it was School 66, and I did my elementary student teaching there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2356.74,2435.94"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And then I took, I recall, while at the Conservatory, we had to have academic courses and Peabody didn't give all of them. So I took some history and I took -- I'm trying to think. It was an education course that I took, and it might have been a humanities course that I took, I can't even remember -- at Johns Hopkins. And then all the other courses had finally became a part of Peabody. All of the academic courses that we needed. For example, English literature and composition were finally given into the Conservatory, and I was able to take those there. And speech. We didn't have to have any math, no science. [Laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2436.87,2491.24"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Lucky you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2491.394,2491.407"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e We didn't have to. Do you have to take those now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2493.16,2495.5"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know, as a graduate. I've only been there as a grad. I did my undergrad at Towson [University].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2496.1,2498.679"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, okay, right. Well, at Towson, you had to take [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2499.04,2500.283"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e -- [crosstalk] But as a graduate student, no, you don't have to take [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2501.56,2502.343"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e -- [crosstalk] No, but even undergraduate, we only had -- In fact, I received a Bachelor of Music degree. It's not Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science and everything involved music, and I loved it. But there were courses like philosophy, and I think even by that time, the psychology and philosophy were also given at the Conservatory because I do remember Corwin Taylor, Dr. Corwin Taylor, who was the director of instrumental music in Baltimore City. He taught the psychology course, and then I took philosophy under someone else, and I can't remember his name. But I've given you the names of the people who were the ones who really taught me in the Conservatory that I think made a difference in my career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2502.64,2551.48"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me about your lessons with Mrs. Sachs. What did you do? Was she strict?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2552.74,2557.06"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e She was strict. She was a very dignified, caring, strict person who wanted me to play correctly, she wanted me to read accurately and I tried to -- with the ability that I had been given -- I tried to reach her expectations, and I hope I did. And I think I did. [Laughs]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2557.6,2584.719"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Was she the sort of teacher who told you how to play, or did she allow you for your individual interpretation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2586.28,2591.329"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, she did both. She told me how it should be stylistically and technically, and she always left room for the freedom of my own expression. And she realized, and I think she appreciated my unique gift. And I loved her dearly and I still do. She's still living. And I would not trade her for anybody else today because I'm not sure that another person could match what she had to give.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2591.86,2629.09"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think the education was probably for those days, and at that time it was the highest caliber. I recall that you couldn't make a C-minus at Peabody because you would fail the course. [Laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2630.26,2646.91"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e That's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2647.098,2647.18"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know. Is it still true?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2647.99,2649.1"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, for your music courses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2649.79,2650.822"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2651.52,2651.52"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e So I understand you were among the first group of African American students at Peabody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2653.99,2658.37"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I was. Junetta Jones, Veronica Tyler and I were the first to receive the Bachelor of Music degree in 1960. And I was the first to receive the Certificate in Piano from the Prep -- well, I was the first to graduate from the Prep in 1960.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2658.85,2675.11"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e The first student?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2675.182,2677.12"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e The first Black student.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2677.6,2679.16"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e What was the environment like? How were you treated by other teachers? Were you accepted? Was it really no big deal?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2682.64,2688.489"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, at that time I didn't notice any -- I didn't have any problem. Maybe it was because I was generally a good student. I didn't have a problem at all. And I did my best. I didn't realize the impact, and maybe I was just naive because I didn't realize the impact of being there. And I had no problems with anybody. 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He's dead now, but I won't even call his name because I can't [unclear] -- I know Reginald Stewart [Conservatory Director] was there when we came. Dr. Reginald Stewart, who was the director of the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra, was there when I came, and then when I left, the gentleman who was there was at one time the director of the Juilliard and came to Peabody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2716.42,2771.74"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Was it Peter Mennin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2772.82,2774.106"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Peter Mennin. That's who it was, Peter Mennin. I couldn't remember the name, but he was there for, I think, the three years that were left, because I think Reginald Stewart was there for just one year and then Peter Mennin came in as director. So I don't know the other directors because, you know, they were the only two that I had and his name is on my degree. [Laughter] And by the way, I love those degrees because they're nice and big.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2775.129,2798.11"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Big, that's right! They take up the whole wall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2799.69,2799.719"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I always loved that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2802.13,2803.36"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e But no, I never had a problem. As I told you, I would go to class and then I would come home in the middle of the day because it only took me ten minutes. And actually, we had a room there -- we didn't have a dorm, we didn't have a cafeteria -- there was one room. It was in the -- Oh, my goodness, I don't even know the whole area. And I would go in and get a tuna fish or chicken. I loved the chicken salad sandwiches and I would get one every day and a coke because they were delicious, but we didn't have a cafeteria. But we had sandwiches that were made and I can't remember the lady's name, but she was there. It would probably be in my -- Actually, we had two yearbooks. Are you aware of that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2804.2,2853.207"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I did not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2853.31,2853.76"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I have them downstairs. We have two yearbooks and I don't believe they put out another one since that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2854.24,2860.62"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2861.29,2861.29"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know, I don't know whether it's because the students -- I don't know. Maybe if they had -- do you have a student government or student union or --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2864.59,2877.3"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Not that I know of, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2878.59,2879.485"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Because it would be nice to have a yearbook again. [Laughter] So that, you know, you remember some of the activities and whatever. There was one thing that I thought about and I didn't think about this until ten years ago. Since you asked me the question of whether there were any problems, and I never had any. But in looking through my yearbook, I realized, because I had begun to pledge the Mu Phi Epsilon sorority. And it was never brought over, and I've thought about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449#t=2879.548,2914.2"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117449/transcript/32823/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY CYRUS McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And in fact, I talked to my friend Myrtle [Mack Dutton] recently about this. You know, we both pledged that but we never came over and -- Well, then, of course, things started to come through my mind -- well, maybe it's because we were Black and, gee, that was over 40 years ago! But we had been going to meetings and we'd begun to pledge. And it didn't bother me until when I looked up ten years ago, when I looked up the yearbook, I said, you know, what happened to us? 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A lot of times they only stay in the neighborhood where they live. So we didn't do a lot of traveling. We didn't have a car. I went to church, school and home and I had to play somewhere. A lot of times I would go to play at school -- not school -- a place called YWCA or the YMCA. 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But I would play for various affairs around the community. I recall the day that I graduated from high school, I went into a drugstore on North Avenue, and it may have been Preston? No -- North Avenue and it probably was Preston at that time. I'm not sure. I can't remember whether it is because I've been on that side of town for years. But anyway, I went in to get a milkshake and I remember being told you cannot drink it in here. And at that time, I just took my milkshake and left, but I didn't realize it until later. Hey, this man is saying, you're Black. You cannot eat in here, you know? But it didn't faze me. I took the milkshake and I left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=29.46,84.48"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e But at the time, it didn't bother me because I really never really had a problem with being turned away from any -- because I didn't go anywhere where that happened. You know, there were Black establishments, basically, and I didn't have a problem with those. I worked for two people at a confectionery store and I made two dollars a day cleaning the confectionery store. I gave my mother one dollar of the two dollars that I made on Saturdays after I came from Mr. Holliman's [phonetic] rehearsal. And I would clean the store, but there was no problem there, either. I really did not have a problem as a youngster because I went to Black schools and there was no problem with the teachers there. And the only other time I had some connection with Whites were at the Preparatory School and at the Conservatory, and there was no problem. I didn't have any problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=86.16,154.15"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, well, good. You studied with Miriam Sachs through the Prep. When you went to get your undergraduate degree who was your teacher [then]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=155.73,166.689"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e My teacher was Julio Esteban. He was from the Philippines, and I believe he came [to Peabody] at the same time. I came in 1960, September of 1960, and he had just come to the Conservatory at that time also. And he was also a wonderful teacher. Great sense of humor. And I loved him dearly as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=167.26,190.24"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Considering your great talent for playing and accompanying and improvising, what made you decide to go into teaching instead of doing a performance [crosstalk] --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=192.13,200.379"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, again, now, it was forty years ago -- forty-four years ago that I graduated and the opportunities were just not there, and I thought that I would love the area of teaching. I didn't want to travel, you know, and I knew that as a concert pianist, I would have to travel. And then there was no certainty as to how much money I could make. Probably more than teaching, then, though, because I started with $3,200 a year compared to 32,000 today, or 33,000. The salary was 3,200 per year as a beginning teacher and actually, at that time, they didn't have many professions that Blacks could go into. For that matter, maybe for anybody. You couldn't get engineering. Blacks didn't go into that field. There weren't many doctors. There weren't many lawyers. So you took teaching and whatever else was out there that was available to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=201.34,267.55"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e But luckily, it was something that you enjoyed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=269.64,270.936"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I enjoyed teaching. Sometimes, as I said, I'm the kind of person who stayed close to home. So I didn't think that being a concert pianist would be what I would want because I'm a family person. I wanted a home and a family and marriage. So I did not pursue that course. And actually, you know, I'm a Conservatory graduate and the requirements were -- at that time -- great. I still had to meet the piano requirements to graduate because it was my emphasis. And so I feel that I got a wonderful education and of course, I can always go back and study some more. I don't know that I will at this age, but I felt that I had received an excellent background in piano, even though I didn't pursue the concert field.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=271.499,337.62"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Great. Tell me a little bit about your first teaching job. Did you feel like you were prepared for it? Where was it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=340.18,345.653"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I felt that I was very much prepared for it because I went back to the school for which I graduated -- Dunbar High School. And I taught there for six years and I knew everybody there. I knew the principal. It was an honor to go back to my high school and I was there for six years and then I went to Harlem Park Junior High School and then I went to City College. I loved that too, because again, here I was, where I got to teach youngsters who were not just Blacks, but then you had mixtures of other cultures and races. I was there for a year and then I went to Western High School and I loved it immensely because we had the cream of the crop. Ninety-eight percent of our young women went on to college and many of them -- I might as well say it now because I may not get the opportunity again -- there were several young women who have gone on to become music professionals, and because I may not have this opportunity again, I'm going to call their names.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=346.66,413.23"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e One is Kenneithia Redden-Mitchell, who was in my choir at Western and went on to as a matter of fact, she came to Morgan when I came to Morgan to teach and graduated and went to Juilliard and received a degree in voice. And she has ties with the Baltimore Symphony and several major orchestras and has even performed internationally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=414.46,441.31"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e There is another young woman. Her name was Sonya Wooten, who went to Peabody and received a degree in voice -- a Bachelor of Music in voice. She's also teaching now. I had another young lady who -- I hope I remember all these names! Toni Kravzo [phonetic] also went to Peabody and graduated. I haven't been in contact with her since she graduated. I did go to her graduation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=443.996,472.15"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And then there's a young woman, Jocelyn Taylor, who did not go to Peabody to receive her degree, but I think she studied there and she has done a concert at Carnegie Hall. She's a coloratura singer and I believe she is studying privately now. She's also teaching, but she's in language.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=474.4,503.04"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And then there is a young woman who I did not teach, but she was at Western when I taught there and I chose her to sing for our farewell assembly. Her name is Janice -- well, she's married now. Her name is Janice Jackson, and she teaches voice at the University of Maryland, and she also teaches at the New Shiloh Music School. And I'm also there. I teach at the New Shiloh School of Music. I teach piano. Got to mention that because I've been here for eight years and Janice has been there as well, for eight years. And again, Dr. Carter is the headmaster there. His brother is the pastor, and I am very fortunate to teach his brother, the pastor [laughs], piano, and I enjoy my work there a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=504.15,565.79"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e While we we're talking about my experiences, I mentioned Fannie Newton [Moragne] -- or did I mention Fannie Newton?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=567.44,574.142"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=575.09,575.167"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think I did, but I've got to mention this person -- who is still living. I did mention her and I must. She taught at the Baltimore Institute of Musical Arts. I was a teenager. And maybe that's why I accompany well today, because all these people played a part in my musical growth. I would go to the Baltimore Institute of Musical Arts, which sat up on a hill next to the Old Shiloh Baptist Church. It's the same church that I speak of -- the New Shiloh Baptist Church -- but they moved from that location to the Monroe Street location where they are now. But I would go there and accompany her voice students. It was a school for Blacks because we could not go to the Peabody at that time, or to the Conservatory, and it was run by Professor Herman Schwarz and his wife. They were of German descent. And there were many Blacks who studied there at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=575.17,647.01"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e And then, of course, sometimes Ms. Newton would have -- She's not Newton now, she is Fannie Newton Moragne , but I think her husband died. So he's not around. But she would have me come to her home and actually, I remember receiving my first little pennies [laughs] from her, and I don't mean that the way that it sounds. She paid me a nice little sum of money to come and accompany her students, and that money came in very, very handy because it seemed like it was a lot then. And I made enough to buy my books and things that I needed for school so I can never forget her. So I'm glad you asked these questions because some things that I don't think of -- the questions are bringing these things to my mind, and I certainly would not want to leave her out of the picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=648.75,707.01"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e There is another person who was instrumental in my music career now that I think of her, and that is Mr. Clarence Henderson, who also taught music in Baltimore schools and became an administrator. And I played for his choir. I still play for them. They sing from time to time, and I'm trying to think of the name of the group. It is a shame and I can't -- because I've become a little nervous and I can't think of it -- The Olton Singers. And they still exist. And I played for him at the Madison Avenue Presbyterian Church for, I guess, about five or six years. And then he started a group called the Upton Singers [phonetic], and I play for them often when they go out to sing. So I've had quite an experience of playing for groups and they sing music of the highest quality, and that gives me a chance to learn the literature and to expand my gift even more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=707.73,776.01"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e You said when you were a teenager at that time at the Baltimore Institute of Musical Arts, you weren't allowed to go to Peabody. Do you remember at the point where that changed? Was that right before you allowed in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=777.9,789.619"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually, I did not attend the Baltimore Institute of Musical Arts as a student, I simply went to play for Mrs. Fannie Newton, who taught my sister voice and we would go with her, and she recognized the fact that I played well and I was given the opportunity to come and play for her students. But I came to the Peabody Preparatory in 1955, so it was probably up until then. The school still existed -- I'm talking about the Baltimore Institute -- at that time, but I never went there anyway. But I entered the Preparatory School because my teacher just taught me privately. I think I started with Ms. Sachs around 1952 or '53 and I went to her home. At one point she lived on Calvert Street. And then she moved next door to the Preparatory. When she felt that the time was right, she just took me over to the Prep and she paid for my lessons, and I went to take lessons at the Preparatory School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=789.619,862.08"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So probably the school accepted Blacks around 19 -- I don't even really know when they said, because I'm thinking again of Paul Brent, who graduated, I believe, in 1948, when he received a certificate in piano. So [Peabody] may have permitted Blacks to come around that time. And then I guess anybody else, and I've read of others from the first exhibit who probably went to Peabody under the table and studied with people. I do know that Peabody had a program in schools where you could study with their teachers. And I don't know what kind of certificate was given, but it was not at the Preparatory School, so I did not study with that, you know -- For example, I know at Douglass [High School], they came and they taught and students would study with them individually. But I entered through Ms. Sachs in 1955 and I received a certificate in piano.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=863.07,923.84"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, let's go back a little bit to your childhood. I remember you talking a little bit ago about your first job that you had, or maybe it wasn't your first, but what are some of the jobs that you held when you were little or younger?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=924.61,936.37"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's the only job I held outside of playing. Maybe somewhere people would give me five or ten dollars, or fifteen or twenty -- we didn't get a lot in those days. You know, if you got ten dollars you were happy. That was pretty good because I mean, nobody worried about money, you know? We had a good life. I would call my life good. It wouldn't be compared to some of the youngsters today who drive cars when they're teenagers have a hundred dollar pair of shoes on, a two hundred dollar pair of shoes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=936.91,970.39"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e But we were happy because my parents were -- And I have to give my parents the credit, Robbie and Dorothy Cyrus. I can't do this -- And I'm happy for the questions you're asking because I've got to give those people, my mom and dad, the credit for really having the vision. And they were not that well educated, but having the vision to see that I was given piano instruction or being involved in music. Anything that's cultural. I really appreciate that. And it's something that can never be taken away, and I will never regret all that they -- and they really went to a lot of trouble to see that we were involved and that I practiced and that I was taken to my lessons. And so I cannot forget them. Robbie at Dorothy Cyrus. So, you know, I was blessed as a youngster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=970.96,1036.21"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you have any brothers and sisters?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1037.829,1038.819"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I have brothers and sisters. I have one sister who went to Peabody for two years and she dropped out. She is organist at Heritage [United] Church [of Christ]. That's Katie Grove. She was Katie Elizabeth Cryus at the time that she went to the Preparatory. She went to the Preparatory School and graduated also. She's two years below me and she entered the Conservatory, and she studied voice and dropped out and she got married. And I have a brother who is living -- Frank. And my oldest brother is dead. And then I have a younger sister -- her name is Ann White. We were all involved in music at some point in time, because she studied with Fannie Newton at the Baltimore Institute of Musical Arts. And that's how I got to know her -- that's how I get to know Ms. Newton. And so that's my family. I have two children. I have my daughter, Michelle -- [she] graduated from Penn State [University] with a degree in political science and went to American University to receive a master's in arts management. She now works for the Mayor's Advisory in Art and Culture, although they're about to to merge with -- or they have merged -- with the Office of Promotion Tourism. They plan Artscape each year. And she works at the Gunston Arts Center in Arlington, Virginia. And my son, Allen McCallum is the house manager at the Meyerhoff [Symphony Hall].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1039.18,1140.193"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e So they are involved in the arts and I guess because I tried to expose them. My son played clarinet in high school and attended Towson University for a while and then my daughter was involved -- she loves the arts -- She manages arts programs. There is a program that they sponsor -- I still call it Mayor's Advisory because that's what it was called, but they have a program on Saturdays where they work with young children and they have teachers who are qualified to come in and it's called the Bright Starts program and the youngsters come for free. They receive grants from the federal government and other sources to help to fund the program. And she loves what she's doing in Arlington because she's had two youngsters who worked on two summer programs. There is an exhibit at the Metro that our youngsters did. And then there's also an exhibit -- it will be there for a year -- on modes of transportation. And then there is a photographic exhibit, and then there is a program where youngsters did a -- Oh, what do you call it? It's like they did a wall --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1141.51,1229.99"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Mural?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1232.073,1232.073"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Mural, for the county office building in Arlington. And their director -- the person who worked with them -- is continuing the second and third floors. But the work that the youngsters did is on the first level of the county office building. So she is very proud of that accomplishment. And then there have been other things that they've done, and she wants to work with children to promote art and culture in their lives as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1232.357,1259.54"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e What about your husband? Was he involved in --?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1261.34,1262.449"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e My husband was not involved in music. I met him at the church -- we attend Wayland Baptist Church and I met him there. And he's a wonderful guy. He's very supportive. He loves music himself and he loves the arts. You know, he has been just wonderful in transporting me wherever I have to go because I have a license, but I don't drive. And so he has taken me, and he goes, and he gets an opportunity to listen and be involved in it that way. He does not play, although he thinks he can sing [laughs], and he has a nice voice. But it isn't trained. 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It's because I didn't think to write this down. But I want to be sure that I've mentioned my piano [teacher], Miriam Sachs, of course. And certainly I can't forget the pianist who worked with me at the Conservatory, Julio Esteban. He was a wonderful teacher. I did study a little organ, but this was outside of Peabody. I studied a little organ under Joseph Peverill [phonetic], I think, was his name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1313.84,1355.05"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[DOORBELL RINGS]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1356.64,1356.736"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you excuse me, please?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1356.784,1357.18"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure, go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1358.119,1358.12"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INDISTINCT BACKGROUND CONVERSATION]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1358.12,1358.12"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INTERRUPTION]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1416.066,1416.066"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, they used to have it at Mount Vernon Place. But they moved it and I don't know whether they brought it back or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1416.144,1417.74"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1417.742,1417.742"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e But it was right there in front of Peabody. So I enjoyed the Flower Mart. [Unclear]. We used to have to go to concerts at the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra. We had to attend concerts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1418.91,1436.64"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e For school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1438.21,1438.45"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e For school. We had to get season tickets. Do they still require that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1439.65,1444.989"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh-uh. They have a Thursday Noon concert series that I think everybody has to go to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1446.82,1451.95"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Is this in the Conservatory?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1452.37,1452.91"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh-huh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1453.4,1453.4"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. We didn't have to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1453.92,1454.95"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's students playing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1456.04,1456.23"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e But we had to sing in the choir. We had to perform. Do you have to do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1456.236,1460.155"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e There's hardly a choral program existence there. I mean, there is a chorus, but it's not very big.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1462.09,1467.88"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Everybody had to. If you were a major. Oh, I'm sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1469.11,1474.1"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INDISTINCT BACKGROUND CONVERSATION]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1474.46,1474.46"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm getting some bookcases. I've got so much stuff here, music, I needed some more bookcases. Did you write that down, what I said?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1491.74,1503.07"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e It's on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1504.33,1504.63"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, it's already on? Okay. I'm trying to think if there is anybody else that I left out. Now, there are a few people that I didn't mention but I am familiar with them -- I told her, I think I left her number, I may have given it to her, for Dr. Hansonia Caldwell, who was a child prodigy who studied with Adah K. Jenkins when I was a teenager. She is now a professor of musicology. I think it's a university in Southern California -- University of Southern California. And she studied with Adah K. Jenkins, [who] wrote for the Afro [Afro-American newspaper]. She was a music critic at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1507.47,1566.753"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[INDISTINCT BACKGROUND CONVERSATION]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1566.754,1566.754"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I can put my books up tonight. So, Adah K. Jenkins and Mr. Holliman I mentioned, and Max Statham. Who else? I gave her a list of names. Did I mention Murray Schmoke?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1602.7,1624.07"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1624.97,1624.97"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e -- who is the former mayor's father, who took over the Great Hymns Choir. I thought I may have mentioned him. I may not have. He took over the Great Hymns Choir that Reverend Daniel Rideout had at one time and directed that for about five to six years. And it may have been longer than that. He may have had it for almost ten years, and I continued to play for them under his direction. And what else -- I gave her a lot of names. I'm trying to think of everybody -- what names I gave her. I can't think right now. If I do, I'll call them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1625.839,1675.941"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's fine, really. Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1676.53,1678.75"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Because I can't think of any. Do you have any other questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1681.265,1681.39"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think so. You know, we're mostly interested in learning about you, although you're trying to talk about all these other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1682.14,1687.72"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e [Laughs] Do they mind that I do that? As somebody who is going to go down in history, I want to be sure that I'm giving them the credit for working with me. I don't know whether I finished the statement or not. I was always busy playing, so I didn't -- Of course, forty-four years ago, there was really nothing to do. And I think it's how I got into the teas at the YMCA and the YWCA, because I played for those once a month somewhere, you know, on Sundays. And other than maybe sometimes I may have gone bowling with my brothers or whatever. I didn't really have anything else to do because I was at choir rehearsal at church, or some rehearsal for some of these groups. And I didn't really get to do these kinds of things. Of course, I had to do my homework for school, because I was a student. So I had to take time for that. And that required -- especially in the upper grades -- quite a lot of reading for what I had to do for school. But I mean, other than that, I was just, I guess, a busy musician at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1690.586,1765.12"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e Were your other friends as musically involved as you were?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1765.185,1769.2"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, they were as musically involved as those who went to Peabody. [They] sang all over Baltimore. I played because there weren't that many Black youngsters who read well at that time or even played that I can recall. There were probably a lot of youngsters who had good ears but didn't know it, because now that I'm a teacher at Morgan and I've met a lot of the young people who come there, some of them have ears that are awesome. They can play gospel music out of this world. So I suspect that talent has always been there, and as a teacher for thirty years, I have run into a lot of youngsters who had nice voices and sang because I heard it in my choir. Our youngsters competed -- we had competitions for voice or solos or whatever. My youngsters from Western won, so I'm thinking also that the talent was there. But a lot of youngsters, their parents didn't know it and what I can see now, these youngsters hear all kinds of things in their head, but they have not studied before coming to formally [study] and didn't know how to channel that to get the technique quality that they needed to become a very fine musician. Some are doing that now, of course, but those are the things that I look back on and I had the opportunity of doing that. And it's something that I will cherish for the rest of my life. And I'm happy that you all cared enough to get this down for history and for those who would come and want to know something about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1769.5,1875.13"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, years ago I did have visions in my head -- maybe someday they'll ask me, did I study at the Peabody? Was I the first? And I assumed I was, but I wasn't sure of that. In fact, I did go to the library about five years ago -- it may not have been five years ago -- because I wanted to be sure. So I looked through as many of the programs from graduation that I could find to check and see because I had no way of knowing whether there was a Black that graduated. I knew about Paul Brent. And I did find that in 1948, he had received a teacher's certificate, because I had been told that we were the first to receive the bachelor's degree. Well, we were the first to receive bachelor's degrees. The thing is, for a while, I thought that the three of us, Jeannette and Veronica and I, were actually the first from the Conservatory until I discovered for myself that he did have a teacher's certificate in 1948. But we were the first to receive the Bachelor of Music degree. And I feel very proud of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1875.86,1946.45"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you should. That's a great accomplishment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1947.07,1949.11"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's a great accomplishment. And the school was wonderful for us and it's still wonderful, and they're going to renovate, I like that. Or they've already begun, I think, to do that. And so you have that excitement about things happening and even to be back in touch. So to speak with the school is really a good thing because, you know, I'd been away from there for so long. And it's like I lost a little touch with my school. Although you can always attend the concerts and I have a seat in the balcony, which I haven't been up to sit in yet, but I did purchase a seat when they put the new seats in. And I guess because I'm a member of the steering committee of the Alumni Association, I get to hear about these things before some other people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1949.79,2006.09"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e While I'm thinking of it, I am a member of the Zeta Phi Beta Sorority. Even if I'm not active, right now. [Laughter] And I belong to the MENC -- Music Educators National Conference. And I am also a member of the Retired Teachers Association. And I'm a member of a group that advocates music and art -- the art culture for the schools in Maryland. And I guess that's all that I've done. It seems like a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=2009.41,2057.929"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKRISTEN GOTTLEIB:\u003c/strong\u003e All? [Laughter] I would like, before I go, if you have any pictures, programs, yearbooks, if I could make a list of that, give that to Elizabeth [Schaaf, Peabody archivist] and see what she wants to use for the website? And then she's going to take care of maybe asking you to borrow that stuff. I don't want to be responsible for losing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=2057.959,2085.615"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eAUDREY McCALLUM:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, now I have, let's see -- I think I gave her a program of one -- And I haven't seen it exhibited, but I did give her a copy of the program. She has a picture of me, because it was in the [unclear] show. But she has it because they've been using it for the exhibition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=2086.17,2107.6"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/transcript/32822/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=2108.26,2108.26"}]},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/index/51719","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Audrey McCallum oral history part 2, 2002 March 20 [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/index/51719/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Racial climate in Baltimore","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=0.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/index/51719/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"McCallum discusses the attitude towards African Americans in the community outside of Peabody while she was a student in the 1950s and 1960s.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=0.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/index/51719/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AUDREY McCALLUM: -- and I would play some incidental music while they were gathering, or a solo or something. 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McCallum also reflects on her relationships with her friends and how music was often the main thing she, her friends, and her colleagues were always involved in. ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Synopsis"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1309.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450/index/51719/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"KRISTEN GOTTLEIB: Okay. Can you think of anything else that you want to share?","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Partial Transcript"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44150/file/117450#t=1309.0,1500.0"}]}]}]}