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We'll just leave that there and I think we're working we've got -- there, I think that's -- well, I wanted to go back over your interview went faster than a speeding bullet. And so I would just like to start right from the beginning and ask you about where you were growing up. And tell me where and when you were born.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=7.27,34.63"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I was born in Washington, D.C. and Freedman's Hospital. Grew up in Prince George's County and a little community called Chapel Oaks, Maryland. It's about six tenths of a mile into Prince George's County from the district line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=36.52,61.37"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e And how did your parents come to to live there? Was that always their home?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=62.99,69.65"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no, it wasn't. But of course, when I was born they moved out into that area. I didn't know, I think they lived in northeast Washington. I don't know the house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=70.55,84.534"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e That's why, so they moved out to the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=84.62,87.35"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, sort of. It's real close to Washington.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=88.1,92.27"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e So, yeah. What did your parents do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=93.02,96.08"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, both my parents were government workers. My dad worked in the post office and my mom worked at Veterans Administration in Washington, and yet there was definitely a musical connection because my dad, I found out in due course of time that my dad had played trumpet and my mother had played piano and organ.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=97.28,127.89"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e Was she a church musician or did she play just for her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=129.75,134.22"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, she was actually in the choir at this church that was not too far from where we lived. It was called, at that time, it was chapel community church. It's since then been renamed. The gentleman who had set forth quite a tradition in that church was Reverend Craig, and so it's Craig Memorial Church now, I think it is, but that was sort of in the area. My mother was in the choir, and she played some time for some services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=134.49,171.26"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e Did she make you go to junior choir?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=172.5,173.72"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, I was in the junior choir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=174.89,175.812"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e [Laughter].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=177.554,177.554"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=178.4,178.99"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e How early did you start doing that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=179.65,182.24"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh my goodness. I think I was like six or seven or something like that. And yeah, I think that was when I was about that age or somewhere around there because. I got I just sort of hooked into well that would have come a little bit later, I started taking piano lessons from the woman at the church and her name was Mrs. Tillman [phonetic]. And I didn't want to take piano, and it just turned out that my parents wanted me, as they said, they put it, we want you to get a keyboard background. And so I guess that's sort of a tradition with some parents. But so I had to take piano lessons. And this went on for about, I don't know, a year or two or whatever. And meanwhile, I had found this in this black box and one of the closets, my father's trumpet, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=182.96,251.58"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e And what were you doing in that closet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=251.91,254.01"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh just rummaging around. Just curiosity. Just what is this? What's in here? So I went in there and found that thing, and it turned out that I wanted to play the trumpet, and I was so fascinated by this thing, this new silver thing, so I play trumpet, and Conn 22b was what it was. And my parents really kept the hammer going with these piano lessons. And for me, at about eight or so, I was about a year in the third grade, I guess. And what. Seem to be fantastic for me at that young, ripe age of eight, my piano teacher died and then that meant that those piano lessons were going to stop. So I was like, oh, gosh, I don't have to take piano lessons, unless they go find someone. So I was able after that, thanks to Mrs. Tillman, to start playing the trumpet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=254.78,330.86"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e And at that time, there was no real program at the elementary school. I was in Fairmont Heights elementary school. The situation in the schools in Prince George's County, I'm sorry to say that time the schools are segregated. There were like two big areas where most Black kids went, and that was like the Fairmount Heights area and the Upper Marlboro area. So there were schools in that area. And also there was another school. Bates High School. In the Annapolis area. Now, that meant that a lot of these kids were bused for long, long distances. Kids used to get on buses at 6:15 in the morning because they had to be bus so far. The high school band teacher at Fairmont Heights Junior-Senior High, it was huge, huge school, still there, but actually behind the house where I grew up, and that school had grades 7 through 12.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=332.24,407.62"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e And the band director there, Mr. Isaac C. Cook. So he was the one who started me on the trumpet, actually. Well, he had no feeder school for his program other than Fairmont Heights Elementary. So he came to Fairmont Heights Elementary to start an elementary band program. And I was in that program. And from that program, actually, two of us who are now professional musicians and my other friend, my friend Jimmy Golson [phonetic], who was the son of the principal of the high school. And he's a principal clarinetist in the Memphis Symphony, and he also teaches on the staff at Memphis State University. So he's been there for a while. We sort of came out of that program and went went through the elementary school and got to the junior high school. And within a few months I was in the band, which was very unique because usually people didn't get into the band until they were in the 10th grade or maybe some cases ninth grade because Mr. Cook ran a very tight ship. So that was sort of a jump from that elementary school and starting my trumpet to Fairmont Heights Junior-Senior High School, where I stayed for until I graduated from high school, and I was in the marching band and concert band.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=409.15,513.52"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e And then you started getting involved with other bands and orchestras around in town, didn't you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=514.669,518.696"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Actually, when I was the junior high school age, I was in a program at Catholic University, it was a theory program that met on Saturday morning. It was like a pre-college theory class of sight-singing and ear training and a little bit of harmony. And that was a really big thing for me because it gave me a very strong background through the high school years. And then there were opportunities when I actually played in the orchestra at Catholic University and other ensembles from I'd say maybe my 10th grade year I played in some ensembles and in the orchestra. One year for graduation I played. That was a big deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=518.809,577.67"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e And then in 11th grade, I was asked to play first trumpet in the American University Orchestra. It was conducted by George Steiner, and he conducted that orchestra, big orchestra, I mean, really, that gave me a lot of experience. And I loved that orchestra, at the end of that year, because he moved from American University to George Washington University, he brought a lot of this is orchestra players with him, and of course, all of them into this situation with the students at GW. But then I became the first trumpet there in the orchestra, my senior year in high school. And then so I was first trumpet, experience with him for two years. And then when I went to Howard University, graduated from high school in '62, and I'll tell you how old I am. And then I went to Howard University in '62 through '66. During that time I was still playing in the orchestra at GW because they didn't have an orchestra at Howard University at that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=577.814,660.32"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e Now were you working with a private teacher in trumpet at that point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=661.43,665.66"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I studied at Catholic. I had a gentleman by the name of John Stephens, with whom I've maintained contact over the years. Actually I played in a group in the '60s and '70s and early '80s in Washington called the Washington Camerata for New Music, and it's a group that was focused on the performance of contemporary music. I took lessons from him. It was an adventure to go take a lesson because I lived in Maryland, Prince George's County, so I had to walk, the buses at that time, didn't go into Prince George's County. They went out into the other White areas, like in Montgomery County past Washington, D.C., but that was the only area. But now they do. They go out into the areas. But I had to walk. That's why I know it was seven-tenths of a mile from my house to the district line. So I had to walk there, catch a bus, go all the way downtown and transfer, either off of the 16th Street or 7th Street line, all the way out to Silver Spring and then catch a bus to go from Silver Spring to Wheaton, Glenmont where my teacher lived. And so taking the trumpet lesson, it would take two hours at least to get there and take a lesson and then two hours plus, maybe, to get back then on buses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=667.64,762.83"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e Plenty of time for reflection, no doubt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=763.46,765.08"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. That's why I tell students now, they say you got it easy. I said, my goodness, and I tell them what I had to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=767.216,773.84"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e But they had to listen to the walking through snow and --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=774.41,776.715"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. That's for real. So he was my teacher. Grades, say, 10 through 12, and then I went to Howard University, and I studied for a semester with the gentleman who became my principal teacher, Lloyd Geisler, and his schedule was pretty busy in the first semester. So then I worked with Don McComas, who was his assistant principal trumpet in the National Symphony. Geisler was principal trumpet in the National Symphony and assistant conductor. So then I worked with Don McComas for that second semester my freshman year and then my sophomore year. And then he got a job as assistant principal trumpet in the Philadelphia Orchestra. So then at that point, I worked with a gentleman, William Penn, at Harvard University. And then my senior year, I worked with actually a person who was a friend of mine who had just gotten out of the Army band, Ambrose Jackson. For my senior year, and then after that, he left, and I became the trumpet teacher at Howard. 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The day I was sitting on the bus out there in Fort Lee to go, because I had to go through a physical out there, and then shipping you out, I got reclassified, and I would have been drafted. So because my mother was holding this paper up. She was standing outside. I was on the bus and she was showing me this paper, which I found out what it was later. 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Yeah. So. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=980.522,987.89"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e Juggling. [Laughs].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=989.3,989.354"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e I was all over the place. And then I got the job here in the Baltimore Symphony in '70, 1970, and so then yeah that was '70. And then. I was still on the faculty, I became full time in '72. When I came here to Baltimore, I was also teaching at Morgan and at Howard University and in '72 I went and became full time at Howard. Mark Facs [phonetic], who was the associate dean there, asked me to conduct an orchestra and teach trumpet and be the coordinator of the instrumental department. So I did that for a number of years. And then things changed for me there, and I left there in '77, I think. But I was just juggling. And then, I think I spent a year or two at the Duke Ellington High School for the Arts in Washington. Actually, it's amazing. I mean, I was at three jobs. I was in the symphony at one point. Same time, I was teaching at a Howard full time. And then I was at the Ellington School for the Arts all at the same time. 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And the best place for us was to be out in the funeral band, out in the cemetery. They formed this band for a lot of us. But that band was a really incredible band. From that band, it must be about forty-five people who are in orchestras today. It's amazing. We used to say that that band would wake the dead because we went through Arlington Cemetery, and it was a pretty powerful group of musicians. But yes, I played my fair share of funerals and taps and patriotic functions. 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He left the orchestra to go to the Philadelphia Orchestra. So he's still a bass player. Right. He's a very, very fair bass player. I mean, personally, a lot of people didn't know that he was African American. But Henry was very, very fair skinned. And as a bass player, he would always be standing there like this. With his bass and he was on the side. So you really couldn't get a real clear shot or sight of him, but so many people didn't know that or didn't realize it. We were the two African Americans in the orchestra for a good while until Bruce came. 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At least. And I didn't realize he came in that year. That soon then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1288.4,1293.46"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e I came back from Atlanta in '73. And well I know by '74, he was in the orchestra. 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That's right. That's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1322.85,1325.65"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e He practiced all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1330.72,1332.16"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e I know. Well, he's a cornerpost [cornerstone] in orchestra. I mean, people respected him so, so much. Everybody respected Bruce. Bruce knew so much about music, and a lot of us would go and play for him if we had to go play auditions because he was such a strong musician and had such -- I mean, his record library, his recordings. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Unbelievable. 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He had this wonderful ability to walk you through a piece of music from the inside out. And it was like walking from one room to another. 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So I know Wilmer had some issues with the orchestra, and there were some struggles, which turned out to be the best thing in the world for him because he left and just has had the time of his life in the New York scene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1430.78,1454.81"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. I mean, these things happen, and he's done quite well being one of the outstanding freelance and theater musicians. 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It was really pretty cool.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1566.084,1566.16"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e That is very, very nice. So you've gotten to do just about everything you've wanted to do, and it's not done yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1566.26,1578.23"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Sort of. I mean yeah. I'm certainly not finished, but I've done a lot of things. Been a New-Yorkster for thirty-two years. And now, I'm embarking on this new situation of full-time professor of trumpet at Penn State, which is great, and in addition to remaining on here at Peabody for one day a week. I'm really enjoying myself. And I guess I have a few months to figure out if I'm going to completely become detached from the Baltimore Symphony or not. I'm still sort of technically on leave of absence from them. 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I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on there. There's a lot of orchestras. I haven't really become connected with yet. But maybe, who knows? 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My contract would allow me, actually, to have a couple more, but I've got sixteen this time. My first year. Yeah. And a lot of other things. I'm doing committee work there. Because I'm the new guy on the block, everybody's wanted to--like the conductor of the orchestra is sort of had me last week I went in to coach. All these things are sort of extra things. And I've done the same kind of thing with the wind ensemble and even the Blue Band, which is the football band. I've gone to a couple of rehearsals. And last Saturday, I went to my first football game and the huge stadium there, Beaver Stadium. Byrd [Stadium] is the University of Maryland. But Beaver Stadium is a big stadium. It's over 110,000 people. 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I mean--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1722.3,1723.095"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you want to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1723.02,1723.075"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm always open. I've done some conducting and, I have a couple of groups that I'm working with up there, a couple of brass groups. So, you just never know how that kind of thing will unfold. I really still have a sort of -- I used to call it stick fever. So, yeah, I think I still would like to do it. 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Nothing really big because I don't want to step on the toes with anything that people already have started. 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Just because it's just one thing that I've thought that I could do, but I just haven't. I have such a respect for the area, for composition. But I've just never explored.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1780.98,1796.16"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, with your grounding and theory. My goodness, you've got all the tools and --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1797.66,1803.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e The way I approach music and the way I hear I think I could probably do it. It's just something I've never done. Maybe one day. 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Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1820.97,1821.66"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e That would be great fun. So what a stretch to end up jumping away from the Washington area and then getting involved over here, and you're a two-career family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1822.02,1838.37"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1838.66,1838.66"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e And how's the other half, the missus, doing in all of this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1838.683,1848.34"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's interesting. She's down here. I'm up there sort of by myself, actually. And it's one of those things where she has her musical life going on down here. And so, this is all new for me up there. So I'm sort of up there by myself these days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1848.79,1867.51"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e Goodness, that's an awful -- well, you've got long experience with juggling, haven't you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1870.84,1875.94"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah, yeah. 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I will ask you, since you are dealing with a lot of young musicians, what kind of advice would you give them coming in if they thought they were serious about a career? And I know there's a difference between thinking you're serious about a career and actually doing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1889.83,1910.26"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, well, I think that I would encourage young musicians to realize the importance of being organized, being serious, being attentive to little but, at the same time, very important things. Because speaking of grounding. It's one thing my mother taught me is that a lot of times the little things will work out. And I found that to be true in a lot of ways. So I think that when I watch young people, nowadays, squander opportunities and time and all of that. It's hard for me to take that. That's what I would really try to encourage young people to really try to realize how easy they have things these days and to really appreciate. And to get as much as you can, now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1910.55,1992.09"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eElizabeth Schaaf:\u003c/strong\u003e That sounds like good advice to me. Langston, thank you for taking the time to come in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=1995.869,2000.71"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412/transcript/31915/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eLangston Fitzgerald:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, thanks for having me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44129/file/117412#t=2001.05,2002.27"}]}]}]}