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Elizabeth Schaaf interviewing Montell Poulson at\nhis home outside of Baltimore City. Mr. Poulson, I wanted to start out by asking\nyou if you could introduce yourself and could tell us your whole name and where\nyou were born?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, my name is Montell Augustus Poulson. I was born in 1924,\nand we were down in Ocho Rios in Jamaica, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and on the way back my mom had me. As\nsoon as we got to Baltimore, you see, so I'm a Baltimore fellow. I had beautiful parents.\n\nMy dad used to sing too, and he sang for Maxwell House coffee. And then we went\nto New England, up in Great Barrington, Mass. He did a lot of traveling at that\ntime. We had a bakery, and we called it the Only Bakery -- from Great Barrington\nin Mass, you know, over to Burlington, Vermont, it was about six, seven miles.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=60.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We made all type of ethnic breads and pastries.\n\nWhen we came back to Baltimore, and he opened a bakery down here. I used to help\nthem a lot. I was the oldest of the boys, three boys.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Three boys. No daughters.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. My brother that's next to me, he used to sing a lot too\nin the churches and different things. He played piano sometimes. And then my\nyoungest brother, he expired in 1974, he was Assistant Dean of Medicine up in\nPullman, Washington. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=120.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the brother that died last year, he was affiliated with\nthe police department. I'm the only one that's living now.\n\nBut we have a beautiful family. I have children, grandchildren, little great\ngrands. Our daughters were all educated. My oldest daughter at Howard\nUniversity, sorority there, my youngest daughter is in mental health, she's here\nin the city. Their mother died in the early part of 1980.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=180.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got married again not long after that to my wife I'm with now. She's from\nSouth America. She's a very, very fine lady. She's been at Hopkins for about\nforty years. She retired and they called her back in the operating room there,\nand that's where she is today.\n\nBut we have a beautiful thing going between us, and her sons are like my sons.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=240.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They have their families and they're here in the city, one of them. The other\none went back to South America, Argentina.\n\nI was in World War II. I played with the 327th band there. I also was in grave\nregistration, because before I was drafted I went to Philadelphia and went back\nover to embalming. That lasted for about six months and then I was drafted. I\nstayed with my aunt up there, Seventeen and Diamond in Philadelphia. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=300.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I\nwas drafted, and I went just about everywhere overseas, and played with and met\na whole lot of musicians -- Duke, Count Basie, whole gang of guys, you know.\nThat's how I learned, from those guys too you see. I kept in touch with a lot of\nthem, and I think ninety percent of them have expired now.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Tell me a little bit about growing up at home. Your father was\na singer, and he had this successful business going up in Massachusetts --\n\nMONTELL POULSON: And then here.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And built up another career as a singer in addition.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=360.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, he was with Maxwell Coffee. And he would sing, you know.\nAnd that's how I learned to bake, what not, cook and all these things.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you inherited the musical talent and the culinary skills.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, my dad played violin too.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did he ever tell you how he started playing and who taught him?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: My aunt was a music teacher.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And this was in Massachusetts?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No. That was here in Baltimore.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. And see my mom was born in Virginia. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=420.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My aunt used to be a\nmusic teacher here at Dunbar [High School] years and years ago.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Tell me her name.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Emma Poulson. But she's expired now. And if my dad was living,\nnext month he would be a hundred and three or four. And my other aunt, she died,\nshe was a hundred and three when she died. Got her picture over there. She was\nin the school system also.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Was she also a music teacher?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So your father studied with your Aunt Emma?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, he was older than them, you see. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=480.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he had an old\nteacher that he used to go to. I don't know their names. I can't remember them.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where did your father grow up here in Baltimore?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, my dad, he came from Jamaica, and they all came here in a\nbig bunch, to Baltimore. But they stopped in Virginia first. And then they came\nhere. This is back in World War I. And then I was born in 1924.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where was your family living when you were born, what part of Baltimore?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=540.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, we were over in southwest, I think around Mount Street\nand Lexington. It was the seventeen hundred block of Lexington. Right after\nWorld War II, when I got out, the neighborhood changed and then the blacks they\nspread it all the way out near Fulton Avenue and Monroe, all back up in there.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So what type of music were you listening to when you were a\nsmall child at home with your family?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, a lot of church things.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=600.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you listen to popular music? I know Ethel Ennis was saying\nthat she wasn't allowed to listen to popular music at home.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, you know, your parents at that time didn't want you going\nto those things. And you had to go to church. And my parents got upset with me\nbecause at school, I would be thrown out the class all the time.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What were you doing to get thrown out of class?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: In band rehearsals and things like that, I'd be playing all\nover everybody, and I was playing saxophone at that time, see.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Was this at Dunbar?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, part of it was at Dunbar, and elementary and different\nthings like that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=660.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My aunt, she lived in east Baltimore too. She was a music\nteacher, and she used to crack my fingers. [Laughter] They didn't spare the rod\nat those times.\n\nBut everybody was close and everything. My dad used to make all of us sing with\nhim and different things like that. Quartet things, you know. And all of my\nbrothers, my youngest brother that was Assistant Dean, Chauncey, he went to the\nUniversity of Maryland, and that's where he graduated and met his wife. His\nwife's from Philadelphia.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=720.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he was cleaning his pistol one day in his office, out there in Pullman,\nWashington, and he didn't know that he had left a bullet in the gun. It went\nstraight through, like that, and that darn near killed my mom. He used to play\nguitar and sing.\n\nYears and years and years ago, before being drafted, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=780.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd walk past the places\nwhere they had music, and it interested me. And I used to see them on the\nAvenue, 'cause I had an uncle on McCulloh Street, and I used to tell my mom I'm\ngoing to Uncle Joe's house. I used to see them playing and all these things, and\na lot of the musicians there, when I got out the service, I really met because I\nwasn't old enough to go into those places at that time.\n\nYou see, there wasn't no air conditioning -- no nothing -- and they used to have\ndances and things, and they would put sawdust on the floor, and they'd dance\nwith no air conditioning, no nothing, and little blue lights. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=840.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I met so many\nguys, and then when I got out of the service, I met some of these same guys.\n\nThat's how I got with Rivers Chambers and all those guys. They were excellent\nmusicians. I learned a lot from them too -- plus the guys in the service that I\nplayed with.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Rivers Chambers was working independently when you got out of service?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yes.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So this would have been right after World War II?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. I got out in '45, and that's when I actually started, you\nknow. We used to go by different places and listen. And if they found out that\nyou were a musician, they would call you up -- a lot of guys that I learned so\nmuch from.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=900.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like Charlie Harris -- he worked for Nat Cole, and he was at the Royal Theater.\nAnd he left the Royal Theater I took his place with the Tracy Kentuckians. Have\nyou met Tracy [McCleary] ?\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh yes.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Tracy's something else. See, because I used to bring my oldest\ndaughter, you know, pick her up from school, set her in the wing right behind me\nwhere I was playing with the Tracy Kentuckians. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=960.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Ella Fitzgerald and all the\npeople that would come in. She would cook in the kitchen back there, and take my\nlittle daughter and, that's the one that's the lawyer there.\n\nElla was from Virginia too. See? And my mom. So during intermission I'd take her\nover to my mom's. I used to bring a lot of guys home with me. We'd throw on the\nfeed bag, and I'd do a lot of the cooking. And Redd Foxx and all of us, we grew\nup together.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1020.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'd get back to the clubs where we were playing, and I think we were at the Red\nFox at that time playing. Tom Lance and Ethel [Ennis] singing.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh you were playing with Ethel at the Red Fox?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. Sure. That was just Ethel and I there, but then, Ray\nChambers, and he's one of the best pianists in town, he used to play for us.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1080.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What were the names of some of the clubs that you walked past\nwhen you were going over to your uncle's? Do you remember some of the big ones?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, there's Sphinx Club, and there was the Casino. I played\nat all those places afterwards. There was the Old Mill.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Dixon's.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah, Ike Dixon. His sons and I were in school and things\ntogether. Ike Dixon and his sons. Mr. Dixon at that time, he was a musician too.\nHe had a band. He used to travel, and back during those times there was\nsegregation, and he bought his bus, and he used to take his band out in the bus.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1140.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After World War II, a lot of places opened up for African-Americans. We had just\nas many white people in those places as the blacks, you know. It was the same\nthing in New York too, you see. And a lot of the musicians, on our\nintermissions, we'd go from club to club, and sit in, jam and listen to\ndifferent things like that.\n\nAnd even like New York, Ethel and I we were at the 21 Club too. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1200.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did she tell you\nabout that? I used to commute every night just about.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did you go up on the train?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No, I'd drive. Well, gas was what?\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: A quarter?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No. No. No. Ten cents a gallon or something like that at that\ntime, and then it went to about fifteen cents. I'd come back and leave Ethel\nthere. But I would go back because at that time I had a job, too. You see,\nbecause my daughter was born in '46. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1260.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got this job with a finance company, and\nthen I became manager of Commercial Credit. That's where I retired from, but I'm\nstill playing at night and back and forth. I retired in 1970 from Commercial Credit.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: From one of the jobs. [Laughter]\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. But I stayed pretty busy. And my wife had died. She was a\nschool teacher. And she was a very smart girl.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where did you meet her?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1320.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Was it Morgan? I think it was, at a game at Morgan --\nHomecoming or something like that. I can't remember now. But she was from\nAtlanta, you see, but she moved here and went to\n\nMorgan, finished at Morgan. And we had a nice life together. If she was living,\nI guess she would be around seventy-three.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1380.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Going back to what you were telling me after coming back to\nBaltimore after the war, which one of the clubs that you played in did you enjoy\nworking in the most?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, there were so many of them that I did play in. And oh, I\nplayed down the Block with Jimmie Goldstein and Purnell Rice, all those guys,\nexcellent musicians, and they're expired now.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And Tanglefoot played down there.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. Tanglefoot, Purnell Rice, Jimmie Goldstein, myself.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Was this at Kay's?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, I played at Kay's. I played at, oh gosh.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1440.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was the Two O'Clock Club.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah, I played at Two O'Clock and I played at the Oasis. I\nplayed where they had striptease, you know.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: The Gayety.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: The Gayety. Yeah. The Gayety, I played there with Melvin Spears.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh with Melvin Spears. Oh for heaven's sake.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I talked to him last week. I took him on a gig with me at the\n[Walters] art museum over on Charles. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1500.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he'd sit in with us, but he's been\nreal sick.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Was the music that you played for the shows on the Block\ndramatically different from the shows that you played on Pennsylvania Avenue?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, most of the musicians were black in all those places down\nthere, you see, but we couldn't sit on the bar or anything. We had to go in the\nbasement or walk around the streets and things like that. And I'm trying to\nthink if the place where we played there for about a year. It'll come to me.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I can't remember who it was that I was interviewing that\ntalked about playing down the Block, and in one of the places he played, they\nhad like a sheet or a scrim so the audience couldn't even see the musicians and\nthey wouldn't know that they were black.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1560.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Some -- well, we did that in like the Two O'Clock Club, where\nthe girls were performing and different things you know. . We couldn't sit in\nthe bar and anything. They didn't even want their musicians to mingle with the\npeople. The people would want to talk with you.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I remember hearing from some folks that there were people who\nactually went down there to listen to the music more than to see the girls.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, that was the drawing card, too, you see. And that's why\nthey call it \"The Block\", you know, because they had about seven or eight clubs,\nyou know. And a lot of the guys that were in the service and different things\nlike that used to come down, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1620.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, from Camp Meade and all the different\ncamps all around.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And tell me where were you, where were you stationed when you\nwere in the service?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh, I was in Camp Lee, and then I was shipped to Camp Beal in\nCalifornia. I left out of Seattle, and I went to Enewetak [Marshall Islands] --\nOh, Hawaii first. I was in Hawaii, and then from Hawaii, to Enewetak and then to\nIndia. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1680.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"CBI we called it. India, Burma and China for a while, and then Seoul,\nKorea. I went there and to Japan just before I coming out of the service at that\ntime. I went to a lot of places.\n\nI got wounded Easter Sunday morning of '45 from a recoil on a five millimeter.\nAnd that was in Guam. That's this thing here -- its shrapnel. They told me if I\ntook that out -- well, it's been in there fifty-seven, fifty-eight years. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1740.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And\nthey don't want to take it out because I will go blind.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, it must have been very interesting, seeing the changes\nin Baltimore.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: A lot of good musicians are from Baltimore. A lot of them have\nexpired. I don't know what happened to a lot of my things that I had.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1800.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, when you left to go into the service --\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I was drafted. Yes.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: In growing up in segregated Baltimore, and living with all of\nthat, and then suddenly to be plunked down in a different country, in a whole\ndifferent culture with very different ways of viewing how the races interact\nwith one another.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, I was drafted, and I was stationed at Camp Lee. And my\nfirst cousin and I were about the same age, and we were drafted and we went to\nthe same place. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1860.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Going on the train there, they put all the blacks right behind\nthe engine, and all the smoke and stuff would come in there. See, in summertime\nwith your khakis. The conductors used to split us up because he [my brother]\nlooked like he was an Italian. And he got upset, you know, and we both almost\ngot locked up.\n\nAnd then it was segregated in the camps and stuff. One part of it was for the\nblack soldiers and the other part was for the white soldiers. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1920.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But when we went\nto town, a lot of the musicians got together. The MPs didn't want no\nassociations with the black and so forth.\n\nThese guys that I'm playing with out there, that was in Seoul, Korea, we were in\nspecial service at that time. We used to play behind a whole lot of the\ndifferent people that would come from the States.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=1980.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And down in Okinawa, half of our company got wiped out. The whole mess\ndepartment, food, the mess sergeants and all of those guys, they got wiped out.\nWe didn't have any cooks or anything. They had rookie soldiers come in, and so I\ntook three of them, and taught them how to cook. And two of them, when they got\nout of service, had restaurants. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2040.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One guy was in Detroit. And the other one, I\nthink, was in Philadelphia. His name was Phil Derisille.\n\nAnd when I was playing in Philadelphia, I saw this guy and I looked at him and\nlooked at him, and he looked at me, and then people saw us hugging each other.\nThat was his restaurant! It was the Black Angus in Philadelphia. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2100.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I tried to\nfind him when I was up there a couple of months ago, but the son said that he\nhad expired.\n\nBut when they asked me to come up there and play, I went because I was excited\nbecause I was gonna see him. But he had expired. A lot of those guys, they were\nwonderful, wonderful. That's a rifle that I had in Okinawa. I brought it back\nwith me. They let you bring a few souvenirs back.\n\nThere are so many things I brought, when I got back here in the States, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2160.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had\nchina sent to my mom in Harlem. The ladies used to wear the, what's the name?\nLooked like bathrobes.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Like kimono?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: That's it, kimonos. And the women looked so strange at that\ntime over there. Everybody went to the same bathroom. They were all on the\ncorners and things like that. It was just so strange, from what we had been\naccustomed to here. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2220.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we used to sing the different songs that they taught us,\nand they wanted to sing songs that we do.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you got to trade music back and forth.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yeah, in Yokahama. But it was really interesting in all\nthose places -- Hawaii. I met so many of the guys that was overseas with me that\nhad expired. And we played at Lenny Moore's -- the Fuzzy Kane Trio. We played at\nLenny's I guess for two or three years. At that time the Colts were here -- so\nmany, so many clubs and things. I just can't remember many of them.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2280.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was playing at D.C. at the Howard Theater also.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What was Tracy like to work with at the Royal?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Tracy was fine. See, he worked for Social Security too. He was\nat Social Security and on his comp time he would play at the Royal. And as soon\nas he finished work at three o'clock, he'd shoot right on back over to the\nRoyal. Tracy was something else.\n\nWe used to have lots and lots of fun. Superb musicians, all of them.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Now I'm curious about Rivers Chambers, because that's a name\nthat was very, very popular when I was growing up.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2340.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, well, I played with Rivers, Pike Davis, Buster Brown,\ngood Lord, Squeezebox. All of them, I'm trying to think a lot of the guys.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Elmer Addison.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yeah. He was a saxophone player.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: They were such great showmen.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh sure.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Which one was it that did that thing about the judge?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh that was Buster Brown. Yeah, he played guitar, he cut down\nthe old pine tree and all those things like that. I'm just trying to think. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2400.0,2460.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We\nplayed for about fourteen or fifteen years for the Question Club.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Which club was this?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Question Club. It's a group of millionaires. It was sixty of\nthem. And there was no Jewish involved in there, but these guys were from all\nover the states, and they would meet at White Sulphur Springs. And we used to\nplay down there in West Virginia -- all these golf courses. We used to play out\non the golf course, and we used to stroll, and these guys -- and there's s sixty\nof them -- they would come down, do the golf and have the extra ladies in. No\nwives or anything like that, you know.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2460.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we would go to New York and catch the train. And we would go down to\nFlorida, and we'd play on the way down. And there was just three of us, Pike\nDavis, Buster Brown and myself. And the guys on the Pullman, we'd wake them up\nby playing. And it was a lot of fun. I was with them guys for a good while.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What was Mr. Brown like?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Who Buster? Buster was all right. His wife was a nurse also.\nBuster, he was a perfectionist. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2520.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then Pike, trumpet player, he was with a lot\nof big bands: Count Basie and Tiny Grimes. There were so many people that he was\nwith. He was a World War II veteran, and they had him for dead but he wasn't. He\nwent into a coma, but he came to. And he used to tell us,\n\n\"thought I was gone, didn't you! I fooled you, I fooled you. I just didn't want\nnobody to get my chair.\" That's what they would call, you know, and they were in\nthe stand. He had the first chair. And we would have so much fun. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2580.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Buster,\nBuster would sing, and all of us would sing together. And we would stroll.\n\nI play with a guy now -- we do a lot of strolling, and he's a violin player, Ray\nDumbrowski. We play on different boats and stuff like that together, we stroll\nand we do weddings. And I'm with Frank Weisberg, and he's in the school system.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2640.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He's a young guy, but he can play. And Danny Brown, he retired from Dunbar. He's\na drummer.\n\nDunbar had so many great musicians that have expired.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And they're still putting them out there.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh, yeah. The music helped to pay for my children's college\neducation and things like that.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Mr. Chambers.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Who Rivers? He died on the bandstand.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2700.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Were you there that night?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No. No. That was a sad time. And his wife took over things. His\nwife was a nurse, and she just took over things afterwards. Her and Buster.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2760.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He also worked all of his life as a church musician.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, a lot of us played in churches and things like that.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did you do this too?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Little bit.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Which churches did you play for?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh I can't even remember now. I play with retired businessmen\nright now. They adopted me about thirteen years ago. And that's a couple of them\n[looking at photo] with Mel Spears. The singer, he's dead now. We call ourselves\nthe Tired Businessmen. Those guys adopted me after their bass player expired,\nand we played so many different places around. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481#t=2820.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117481/transcript/38488/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These guys are retired\nmillionaires. We played at Hopkins and the different places. Pete Ceoni, he's a\nsaxophone player and Chuck, he's a drummer. 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See because I\nhad big Lincolns. I always had Lincolns ever since 1949.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: When you couldn't get a LaSalle any more?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No, they stopped making them then, you know. [Laughter] See\nthey stopped making cars in 1941, and they started rebuilding them again in '46.\nBut a lot of us -- like we would play down in White Sulphur Springs, and down in\nFlorida. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd drive down there.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you were driving.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: And playing. I got a little extra money like that. [Laughter]\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You know, it could not have been easy. I mean, you couldn't\njust stop anywhere and get a sandwich.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, a lot of times I would make pastries to take with us. And\nwe would, even like Ethel, we would travel different places and we couldn't stay\nat the hotel -- not too many of them.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: How did you work out finding places to stay?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, they had tourist homes, you see, because a lot of the\nhotels wouldn't take us.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=60.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did you find out about them?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, I would check with the union. I'm in the union you see.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: When did you join the union?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh God. It was the black union and this was in 1946. I dropped\nout and then I went back.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So the union was able to help you with finding accommodations?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yeah. Oh sure. See, because it was a segregated union. They\nhad two unions.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Mr. McCoy took that wonderful photograph of the union\nheadquarters when it was on Pennsylvania Avenue.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No, it was on Argyle Avenue. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=120.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've got to see if I've got that.\nSee it used to be 543 was the black union, and 40 was the white union. And then\nwe merged. I think it was in 1963 or '64, something like that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=180.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The union used to\nsend us different places that were accommodating. We\n\nwould look for the tourist houses, tourist homes, and things like that even like\nwhen Ethel was with us. We used to take her brother Andy. He's a heck of a\nsaxophone player. He was with Ray Charles and all them. His picture's over\nthere. He was a little fellow. I used to do all the cooking.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You were a very valuable musician to have around. Drives a\nLincoln, can cook. .\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=240.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My wife's driving the Lincoln today, and I got the little\njitney out there, the Focus. I carry my bass and stuff in it.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Tell me about your bass. People have their special\nrelationships with their instrument. Where did you find yours?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, that's just like a wife. This one was made about four\nyears ago by a guy from Czechoslovakia. I was introduced to him, and he's living\nin Ohio now. And I had two basses, the one that I had in the service, the one\nthat I got in 1952. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=300.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We were downtown at the Harbor and we were on intermission.\nAnd somebody broke the neck of it. And I almost had conniptions. Luckily I had\nmy old bass here. I had to restring it so I could go get back to play it that\nnight. And I'm sorry I did it, but I put both up for sale after I had them\nrepaired. The guy was making this one for me that I have now. I put them on\nconsignment and the music store sold it for me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=360.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I bought that thing after I got\nout of the service. I brought the one that I was playing in the service home,\nand then I bought another one. And see, the strings used to be cat guts like\nthat and my fingers would get all blistered. There was no amplification. And no\nair conditioning, and they [the strings] would pop in a minute. I used to buy\nstrings down Howard Street, and then the other place was down there on Centre\nStreet, Ted's. Well, Ted [Martini] he's dead now, but it used to be on the other\nside of the street. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=420.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all of us used to go down to Ted's and get strings. You\ncould buy a string for a buck, but now if you get a set of strings it costs you\nabout a hundred and fifty bucks. We used to get everything from Ted's.\n\nThey were the good days. They were.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did you ever see so many instruments in one place?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh everything, and when it caught a fire, you know, he did just\nget some of the things out, you know. And then he moved across the street.\n\nWhat did I buy from him? I bought a cello from him. I used to get all my strings\nfrom him. But I carry all that stuff with me now, see. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=480.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this bass that I have\nnow, this guy from Czechoslovakia, he made it for me.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So how have the two of you been getting along?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: The new one? Well, I'm getting used to it now, you see. I put\nit on wheels when I move it. Getting to old to lift it.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, what brought you to this place, and because I saw you up\nthere with the sax.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, you know, I played the tenor and the alto, and I used to\nplay the church, stuff like that, you know. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=540.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I don't know, in service I met\nthis guy. He's dead now. I'm trying to think of the band that he was with -- he\nwas a bass player. He taught me a lot of things you know. I just fell in love\nwith it.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So this was while you were in the service.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yeah. I got off on the bass and then.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well that sax was a whole lot easier to carry around.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yes, sure. And this, I bought the piano for my oldest\ndaughter. This piano's about sixty, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=600.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my daughter's fifty-seven, and this thing\nhere I bought when I got out of the service, '46. [Plays piano]\n\nBut I can hardly see now to do the things I want to do. That bass that I have\nnow -- it's gonna be my last one. I'm sorry I had those other two on\nconsignment, but when the neck broke, see it won't take the pressure no more. So\nI sold it, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=660.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but I hated to, I hated to sell that thing.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: It gets to be part of you.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. It was a white bass.\n\nThis is a guy you ought to talk to too, because he was in music at Morgan, and\nhis name is Boots Battle, and he and I were real close. He lives down in\nMaryland. He can't walk much now, but he still plays drums. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=720.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is his book\nthat he's got out. He's from New York. He's from Tuskegee, that's his school. He\nwas an airman there, but he was in the World War II flying a plane, very few\nblack soldiers became pilots.\n\nYeah, Boots Battle and the Antones. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=780.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a good guy for you to talk to.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What was the name of the group that you played in with Mr.\nBattle at Morgan?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh, Mobops. Well, we were all at Morgan at that time.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: When was this?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: This is a card from Ethel that she sent me. This is Boots and\nhis group that he had. This is Melvin Spears.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=840.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When did the Rivers Chambers group finally break up?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: The guys just died, you know, and I think his wife died too.\nAnd they just stopped there.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: After Rivers Chambers, who were you playing with?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=900.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh I was with so many people because I was on the road off and\non, too, -- a lot with different bands.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Who did you tour with on the road?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Purnell Rice and I, we went with Fats Domino. He was the\ndrummer and I was the bass player, and when we went back to New Orleans, Purnell\nused to ride with me, and Fats Domino would drive his own car and carry a couple\nguys with him. We had three cars, you know, traveling.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=960.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is with Fats Domino?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. I met him at the Royal Theater. Purnell Rice was the\ndrummer at that time, and he had a brand new, what was it, Cadillac at that\ntime, when he was at the Royal Theater. He would carry a case of beans in his\ntrunk, and he would eat beans all the time. And that was the funkiest car. I\nstayed with him two weeks, and Purnell said, Poulson if you leave, I'm leaving\ntoo. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1020.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No more. Cause he would play in one key all the time, and I used to say to\nhim, I said, well why don't you play in another key? Well, he didn't read music\nor anything, see. And so I would say to him, you know, I guess we're gonna play\nin the same key. He said yes, whiskey! [Laughter]\n\nSo I started using that.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So two weeks in the same key was enough. [Laughter]\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I came back to Baltimore, and I was playing with somebody. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1080.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So\nmany musicians, and I can't even think of their names.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You were talking about the changes. Oh, I wanted to ask you\nwhen did your family go up to Massachusetts?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1140.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, he [father] was singing up that way a lot, in\nConnecticut. See, and we were up that way so much, and over in Boston. He'd be\nthere all the time, and we would have our bakery, The Only Bakery, we would call\nit, and he was with Maxwell also. So something happened, so we came on back.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So this was in the '30s?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yes. And came on back, and we went to Ocho Rios. Then from\nOcho Rios we came back to Baltimore. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1200.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he had a bakery here.\n\nAnd times pass so fast. The guy that was with him, William Jones, he was from\nJamaica. When he passed, my father just gave it up. And but he was a good dad.\nSing all the time.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But did he teach you at home at all?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No. He was surprised to see that I was playing bass fiddle.\nBecause I just fell in love with it, and I stopped playing the horn. Did I tell\nyou I was playing at Jones's?\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1260.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where was this?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Here in Baltimore. It was Jones's Café on Lanvale Street.\nThat's where all the guys used to go to jam. I was playing saxophone, too, at\nthat time. I went to cough or something like that when I was playing horn, and\nspit up all this blood. And what had happened, I had my tonsils taken out, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1320.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I\nhad forgotten all about it, and the sutures just popped loose and blood went\neverywhere, all over the horn and everything.\n\nSo Purnell, the drummer, he and I were real close-- he's dead now -- he called\nmy dad, and my dad came to pick me up. I don't want you playing that horn no\nmore, he said. I don't want you playing that horn no more Yes sir. Keep on\nplaying that bass.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Safer.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. I said, well, I love it. He gave me that horn, and it was\na Selmer, and he sold it. He went to Ted's, said here, I don't want it no more.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1380.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So your horn got to be one of those veterans of Ted's music store.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. Blood was everywhere, and that upset him. At that time I\nwas married and I was living in the third floor of his house, my dad's house.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What street was that?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Lexington. But that was way up Lexington, the seventeen hundred block.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You've been around Baltimore such a long time.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh Yeah. And I played so many places. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1440.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And even now I play a lot\nat the Belvedere. I used to play there with Rivers all the time, and we used to\nplay everywhere. Yes. Back and forth, back and forth. New York all the time, and\nthen come back. And I used to go to Detroit, and Washington, D.C., at the White\nHouse and different things like that.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Who was in the White House when you played the White House?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think who was there at\nthat time.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Was it during the Eisenhower administration or Truman?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1500.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Truman, you know, after Roosevelt died. We played there\nwhen Truman was there.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Who was also a musician.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. And then Eisenhower. But Rivers had charge of all that\nkind of stuff during that time. And we used to go down to Ocean City a lot and\nplay down there.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Ocean City had some big hotels.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah. I'm trying to think of the ones where we used to play all\nthe time.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You played for the governor at Annapolis.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yeah, sure. Because Buster, Spike and myself, we used to\nplay mostly together all the time. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1560.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Squeezebox, he's dead now. And -- what's\nhis name died here a couple months ago. I can't think of his name. He was\nninety-one years old. It'll come to me.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yeah. When did you start seeing the neighborhoods in Baltimore changing?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Right after World War II.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Right after World War II. And then the neighborhoods started shifting?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Expanding. Like a lot of these houses that you see on\nReisterstown Road and all those places were World War II veterans and their kids\nlet the houses just go to bad. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1620.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And all over east Baltimore, Caroline Street and\nall them, beautiful homes. But now they're nothing.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: There are still some hold outs.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And how did the changes affect Pennsylvania Avenue?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, at the Avenue, they should have restored the Royal\nTheater. Because everything just fell apart after the Royal Theater was torn\ndown, you see. Because they were expanding different places, like on Gay Street\nand down the block. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1680.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Blue Mirror, you know, there down the street from The\nBelvedere where I used to play. Down on Charles Street. I played so many places.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1740.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you think that the critical thing was the closing of the\nRoyal Theater, and it was like the linchpin of the street.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Just was pulled out.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: See, even like with Billie [Holiday], she used to ride with me\nall the time. I never will forget. And we were on our way to the High Hat in\nLouisville, Kentucky. She had a little Chihuahua, and when she'd drink that\nChihuahua would drink, you know. She just upset me so much. She would fall\nasleep and roll over on me like that, and I tried to push her back. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1800.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She'd\n\nthrow up, she threw up in my car, and I don't know where we were going, to\nDetroit or somewhere.\n\nWe were on our way to the Cadillac Hotel, Detroit. I couldn't get the stench out\nof my car. She told me, well let them wash it out, let them wash it out. I had\nit cleaned, you know, three or four times. So while we were in Detroit, you\nknow, I just had all new seats and stuff put in, and she paid me for it. But\nstill, she didn't want to ride with nobody else. There were two cars of us.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1860.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Ray Chambers, he's dead now, that's the guy over in the corner there with me.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Right. So what was she like to perform with?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: You have to understand her, you see. She says, I like Montell\nbecause he's the only level head here. [Laughter] She was something. I'm trying\nto think where we were. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1920.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think it was Chicago, but anyway, she got sick\none night, and she says you and Ray just play. So it was just the basic piano\nand stuff.\n\nA few guys would come in wherever we were and just sit in with us. Back during\nthose times, you know, they would smoke reefers, but nobody would know it. They\nweren't out with it like it is here, you know, today. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=1980.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was doing a few other\nlittle things -- and different things -- like that. But it was a hush hush.\nNobody would say.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But was she able to perform?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yeah. Yeah. She could perform. See, she was born in\nPhiladelphia. And then her family moved down here in Baltimore, right off of\nPennsylvania Avenue. I'm trying to think of the street there. It's around the\ncorner from where the Lincoln Theater used to be. It's a little small street up there.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2040.0,2100.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I was with her, off and on, through a nine-year period. And she would get\nupset with some of the guys, you know, and she became real serious when she\ncouldn't contact me. And she passed away in '59.\n\nI swear, I used to say, I'm going home. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2100.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were some weird times, but they\nwere very interesting.\n\nI learned so much from the older musicians. Don Bailey's father. He and I used\nto play together. Don was a little fellow. And Don Bailey, Pike Davis, Buster\nBrown, the saxophone player, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2160.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Elmer Addison. And Elmer used to sing.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Now when did you meet Ethel Ennis?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I'm trying to think now. She didn't live too far from the\nZanzibar where we used to play. She was at the projects. I don't know, Canal\nStreet or somewhere in that area. Because her dad used to cut my hair. Yeah. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2220.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Her\ndad used to cut my hair because he was on Lawrence Street,\n\nand my dad, after his bakery closed up, used to be at the bakery down the street\nfrom where Ethel's father had a barbershop.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So you two go way back.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I remember when she was a little girl like that and her mother.\nI'm just trying to think. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2280.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because we started out playing steady at the Red Fox.\nAnd it started to expand, and George Fox, he used to do a lot of the booking for\nher, the guy that owned Red Fox. And I never will forget we had to go to\nConnecticut, where she went for the audition for Benny Goodman. And Ethel, Fox\nand myself we went up there.\n\nEverywhere we went I'd be driving. I'd play, I'd drive. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2340.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she became like a\nlittle sister to me, you know. And then her brother, we used to take him on the\nroad with us. And we were in Buffalo for a while. We used to be the Poulson duo,\nthe Poulson duet at that time. But she started getting big, like that, it just\nerased Poulson off. It was Ethel.\n\nThen she started traveling all over the place, and I couldn't go then because,\nyou see, I became the assistant manager of Commercial Credit and then the\nmanager of Commercial Credit. 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","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2460.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Henry, you know, he was in the hair thing. And his son took\nit over now, but he's still in Mondawmin. Henry and I we were real close. We\nused to play together. And I used to play at Henry's place down on Franklin\nStreet. You know, all of us. You'd see one, you see the other.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But he always managed to keep a hand in the music business.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh sure. All of us did. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2520.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Henry, that's him on that picture back\nthere. What did I do with that? That's Boots Battle. He's an interesting\nindividual. Very, very smart. See now. That's the Mobops.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh my goodness, and there he is.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yeah, he was the boss at that time, going around town. Quite a\nfew guys -- they're are all expired now -- Bill Swindell and all those guys, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2580.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and\nJohnny Burks, he was on trumpet, Jimmie Goldstein, saxophone and Purnell Rice,\nRay Chambers and myself, we were playing everywhere, and all down the block and\neverything, and everywhere. And then with Melvin Spears and Squeezebox.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Now when did you play with Eubie Blake?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I played with him when he was coming through Baltimore on North\nAvenue and Pennsylvania Avenue. It was a restaurant there, right on the corner.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2640.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he had my phone number. No, he got it from the union, and the union, they\ncalled me. And he was down here for two weeks and I played with him. At the\nrestaurant right there on Pennsylvania Avenue and North Avenue. I can't even\nthink of the name of it.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I didn't know that there was a restaurant there.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yes. Sure. Right across the street from the funeral home.\nThe funeral home is on this corner, and the restaurant.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So they had regular music performances there?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yes. And at that time it became, you know, black and white.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2700.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now Mr. Dixon, Jr., was telling me that there were sometimes\nuncomfortable shifts with the popularity of some of the clubs with the white audiences.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Ike Dixon. See Ike and I and his brother, all of us went to\nschool together. I went to Douglass and they went to Douglass. But in my last\nyear, we used to cut up so much they sent me to Dunbar where my aunt was.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: To rein you in a little bit. [Laughter] Oh goodness.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2760.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I never will forget that. I used to show off all the time, and\nI know when we had a big snow, and in the evenings I would be working at the\npost office. About seventeen, eighteen, or something like that, just before I\nwas drafted. And I had a night collection, and an evening collection, you know,\nthat Halethorpe, Lansdowne and Relay. And the mail trucks were the Model A\nFords. No heaters in them. And you kept your feet warm from the manifold of the\ncar, you see. 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What's the reason?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482#t=2880.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117482/transcript/38489/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All the guys in the post office, you know, a lot of people used\nto send money through the mail.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So all of the post office delivery people were armed. So tell\nme what was the ultimate incident that led to your parents deciding to take you\nout of Douglass and then send?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, you know, my dad had to go up there a couple times. He\ncalled my aunt. All right, send him down with me. He'd give me a dime to catch\nthe trolley. 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Because I met up\nwith a guy who was going to Dunbar, and found out that he and I was in the same\nclass. And instead of the nickel or dime my parents gave me for my lunch and\nstuff, we used to ride the back of the street car. He caught me one day and\nblistered my behind. Told his parents, and they blew up. Made us all sore. Then\nwhen I got down there my aunt, you know, she put the reins on me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that kind\nof straightened me up. And I'm gonna tell you, they were some strong days.\n\nAnd there's the guy that used to live up the street from me, and one day I was\nhooking school. We walked from Dunbar all the way down to the Block, Gay Street.\nAnd we used to go down across from Two O'Clock Club where they had shows.\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=60.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, he was in the Gayety, and he saw me and these other little fellows. He\ncame from the alley. Told my dad, and I got another one. I did that with these\ntall guys, you know, from Dunbar, because we would walk down there. My aunt had\nto go to some kind of meeting or something, and she was off that day. And my dad\ntold her afterwards, and then she really put the brakes on me. She was something else.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=120.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I know Anne Brown and Mr. Prettyman were both talking\nabout growing up in Baltimore, and they were both saying how you couldn't get\naway with anything.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Nothing!\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: If your parents didn't see you, somebody else would?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: The neighbors or a friend, and they would spank your butt, and\nthen when you get home, they'd tell your parents.\n\nI know that the beating that I got, phew, I've never had blisters on my behind\nbefore. So this was like in the hot summer and on the back porch. My room was\nlike on the second floor windows, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=180.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and my uncle from New York and my other\ncousin, they used to visit us. And my mom and my aunts and all them were sitting\nin chairs in the back of the yard. And she said, my god it's hot. I wish it\nwould rain. So I was cutting up all the time. I said let's make it rain. We\nraised the window up, or the screen, and wet on my mama and my aunts. My mother\nsaid, you come down here! They came up there and blistered us. Go to that tree\nand pick that limb off of there! Take them clothes off! I said mother, mother. I\nwarned you, she said. She beat all of us, even her brother, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=240.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I was a year\nolder than him, and they were visiting. Phew. I had blisters everywhere. I\ncouldn't sit down.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Sounds like you earned those fair and square.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Mischief, and I would be cutting up. They were the good days.\nIt taught me to be a good, good, good person. My dad's other sister here, she\nwas a hundred and three.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Martina Tyler. So was she privy to this beating or?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: No, when she heard it, you know, she got into me. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=300.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When she was\na hundred and one, she was in a, what do you call it, a fashion show. She had\nher gloves on, hat and things like that. My first cousin, her daughter, was\nwalking with her. She was with her cane and stuff like that. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=360.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got it around\nhere someplace. But Emma Jean, she was something She was a hundred and three\nwhen she passed.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Your children have all gone into the professions, but you have\na grandson who looks like he's headed for the stage?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, yes, he's in and out, in and out, in and out. He was in\n\"Cats.\" That's him. Right there.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And tell me his name again.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Quay. His father's dead.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But you think he's likely to be a performer.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: It's hard to say.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=420.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How old is he now?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: He's twenty-nine. But young people, the only time they want to\nbe near you is when they want something.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, that's how it is.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I told him, now I said I'm going to write a song, a theme song:\n\"I need, I want, can you let me have,\" you know. They bust up and laugh. And he\ncomes in, and he plays the piano.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But they're still great to see when they come by, aren't they?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh yes. Because they'll call -- Poppy, I lost my tuxedo. Can I\nuse one of yours? I got about three or four of them. I love clothing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=480.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Every now\nand then, he wants something. So I just have to watch him. They're good kids,\nyou know, I have to play disco with my money and stuff. You know, dis go here,\ndis go there. [Laughter]\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I expect they probably aren't too terribly different than we\nwere when we were growing up.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Oh heck, yes.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: It's just that we've kind of conveniently put all those things\nout of our minds.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I never will forget, my barber, and he's dead now too. Because\nhe used to follow us everywhere we went when we played. And I went to get a\nhaircut, and my daughter told me take Quay with you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=540.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think Quay was four\nor five years old. I told the barber, I said, cut my grandson's hair. So\nevidently the clippers were, you know, these kind of clippers. I think it kind\nof pulled him.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: These old hand clippers.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: He said, I said what's wrong, why don't you keep still. He\nsays, poppy, kick his ass good, cause he's hurting me. I smacked him. [He\nsaid,]You're taking up for him.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=600.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, since you have so many people who have made it at least\nto a hundred in your family, you probably have another twenty years to go.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I don't know. I played on a boat last month. My hands are\ncoming back to normal now, but they were all blistered. I had to play with no amplification.\n\nThis boat was from Denmark, down the harbor. Ray Dumbrowksi and I and another\nguy, we were playing on that thing. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=660.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it was about three nights, something\nlike that, you know. But it was kind of warm with Tuxedos on. And it was\nsomething! It was a good time. Most of the sailors on there were trainees from Denmark.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: This was the big sailing ship, the Danmark?\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Yes.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And you're playing with Elizabeth Day.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: I got about seven or eight people that keep me busy. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=720.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Frank\nWeisberg, Ms. Day, oh, so many, so many people.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, it's good to hear that retirement as a musician is a\ngood long time away.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: Well, I just thank the good Lord that he kept me in sound mind.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And the fingers still working.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: And keeping my phalanges up cause sometimes they cramp up on me\nand lock. That's why Charlie Harris, you know, he don't play anymore. But\nCharlie's eighty-six.\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, I thank you so much for doing this.\n\nMONTELL POULSON: That's all right.\n\n","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=780.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483/transcript/38490/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[END OF INTERVIEW]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44164/file/117483#t=840.0,900.0"}]}]}]}