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Larkins also served as an organist at the St. James Episcopal Church in Harlem Park.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eIn 1940 Larkins received a scholarship to attend the Juilliard School of Music, graduating in 1943. While in New York he worked as a pianist in several different clubs and restaurants. It was there that he began his career as a jazz musician, playing in a trio led by the guitarist Billy Moore. Larkins worked for several years as a vocal coach and accompanist for Ella Fitzgerald, Helen Humes, and Joe Williams. He recorded music with Ella Fitzgerald and appeared in a few short films and documentaries. Larkins continued to perform at clubs and festivals in New York and California. In 1984, the Peabody Institute awarded Larkins an honorary bachelor of music degree. He retired in Baltimore and died in 2002. (Abstract)"," Poor audio quality and low levels present on source media. 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Larkins studied classical piano at Douglass High School and at the Peabody Conservatory of Music, at a time when African-American students were generally not admitted at Peabody. Larkins also served as an organist at the St. James Episcopal Church in Harlem Park.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003eIn 1940 Larkins received a scholarship to attend the Juilliard School of Music, graduating in 1943. While in New York he worked as a pianist in several different clubs and restaurants. It was there that he began his career as a jazz musician, playing in a trio led by the guitarist Billy Moore. Larkins worked for several years as a vocal coach and accompanist for Ella Fitzgerald, Helen Humes, and Joe Williams. He recorded music with Ella Fitzgerald and appeared in a few short films and documentaries. Larkins continued to perform at clubs and festivals in New York and California. In 1984, the Peabody Institute awarded Larkins an honorary bachelor of music degree. He retired in Baltimore and died in 2002."," Poor audio quality and low levels present on source media."]},"requiredStatement":{"label":{"en":["Attribution"]},"value":{"en":["The collection is open for use. 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Just turns out that I wasn't smart enough to work\nit. I made a whole lot of notes about questions I wanted to ask you. When I was\ntalking to Alfred [Prettyman], he was telling me that your father, your father\nwas a violinist? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And he played in the orchestra. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. In the Baltimore City Colored Symphony Orchestra. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Right. Right. He was one of the original members of that\norchestra, wasn't he? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And that was when Mr. [Charles L.] Harris-- \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: And Llewellyn Wilson. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And Mr. Wilson. You went on to Douglass High School, didn't you? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And you had music with Mr. Wilson? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: There was also another name I wanted to ask you about--a Mrs.\nWatkins. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=0.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you know a Mrs. Watkins who taught piano?  \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Where did she live? \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I know that she lived on the west side, but I don't know\nwhere. I've been trying to track down the names of some of the people who were\nteaching music in Baltimore and her name came up. Who were your early teachers? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I can't think of the name of the woman who taught me first. My\npapa started me. But this woman lived in the 1400 block of Lanvale Street, and I\ncan't--I never think of her name. And I don't know if it was Watkins or what.\nThat's a blank spot in my memory. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, there was a woman whose father played in the orchestra\nwith your father, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=60.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and she said that she studied piano with a Mrs. Watkins, and\nshe was pretty sure that she was your teacher too. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: She might have been. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, I'll check to see if she lived on Lanvale Street.  \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: That's the only one I know. The corner house there. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, how old were you when you started taking piano lessons. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, I started when I was around two and a half or three. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Good heavens. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: And then he sent me to Mrs. Watkins down the street when I was\nfour or five. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And who was that one? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: That must be Mrs. Watkins, I think. And then I followed through\nwith some contact was necessary involved with--what's his name--Joe Privette\n[phonetic] at Gilman Country School. I went there when I was six. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=120.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And your father, did he ever tell you who he had studied with? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: It started with an L. None of us kids keep track. I think it\nwas--I know it was a German name. But I know he studied with him, and he was\nteaching me. Of course, I was learning the piano. I can't think of his name.\nIt's been so long.  \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Several people have told me what a wonderful musician your\nfather was. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: He was that. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And did he play in other groups besides the orchestra? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=180.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, just the orchestra. He had a rough time feeding his six kids.\n[Laughter] And he was working at catering, waiting tables and that.  \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Mr. Prettyman was telling me that his father always had about\nfour jobs going. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh yes, that's for sure.  His old man used to have a band.  He\nwas trumpet. I knew all the boys. Alfred-- They knew my dad. And he had the\nband, and they played with Harris, when he had a band in the park. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=240.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, he played, also, with Mr. Harris? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Me? \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: No-- \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Prettyman. Yeah. Sometimes. Yes. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Mr. Harris must have been quite a character. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: He was. I still see him now with a toothpick. He was a good\nconductor. Good musician. They also had the Colored Symphony Orchestra.\n[unclear]. Wilson conducted. Harris retired and Llewellyn took over. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, Mr. Harris retired? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I think that--[unclear]. The next thing I know is Llewellyn\nWilson was playing. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, I know he stayed in the orchestra though. He played\ncornet, didn't he? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Who, Prettyman? \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: No, Mr. Harris. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, he didn't. Because I had read somewhere that he stayed on\nin the orchestra. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I don't remember that.  \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=300.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Excuse me, Ellis. [unclear] \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Here, I'll get it. You sit still. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: He might have, but I don't--wait a minute, yes, he did. He did\nstay on. He played trumpet for a while, and then he quit. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Earlier on, this was probably way before your time, but there\nwas a band called the Commonwealth Band that he conducted. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I didn't know about that. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: It was supposed to be one of the best musical organizations in\nthe city. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I wouldn't be surprised. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=360.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With his musical ability I wouldn't be\nsurprised at all. That was before me. Pre-Ellis. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I wanted to tell you somebody else I had talked to just a\ncouple of days ago. Do you remember Anne Brown? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. Anne Wiggins Brown. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yes. She's still living in Oslo. She's under contract, or\nabout to sign a contract, I think. This is apparently not for public consumption\nyet. She's been asked to direct the Gershwin centenary performance of Porgy and Bess. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, no kidding. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And she said, \"Well, I'm only eighty-four and so I can look\nforward to, I hope, another couple of years.\" \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: That's really good. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But she sounds wonderful. We had a wonderful conversation.\nEarl Arnett showed me a video that he had done. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=420.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it was just such a wonderful\nconversation that I called her up the next morning to talk to her. Both of you\nwere soloists with that orchestra. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. Yeah, she did the \"Pace, pace, mio dio\" of Verdi, and I did\nMozart Concerto No. 26, the first movement. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You were really young. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: A squirt.  \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Her father was a doctor. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, that's right. Mr. Brown. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Her mother was a beautiful singer too, you know. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I didn't know that. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, she used to be in our choir. St. James choir. Oh yes. She was\na vocal soprano. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=480.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was reading about her playing with that orchestra. I've been\nlooking over some of the old clippings about the orchestra, and just amazed at\nall the wonderful musicians in that orchestra. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah, well, she did sing at Arbutus [unclear], and I played, and\nshe also did the same aria. I think it's in my scrapbook over there. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Oh, I know where it is. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I know you know where it is. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, after you studied with Mr. Privette, where did you go\nafter that? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Then he sent me down to Peabody, to his teacher, who was Austin\nConradi. And I studied with him for a while, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=540.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and then I went to [Pasquale]\nTallarico, who lived in Pimlico. And I studied with him until I got the\nscholarship to go to Juilliard. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, Tallarico was good. I read a review of him. He played a\nconcert at the Lyric. And as it happened, he played the day after Paderewski,\nand played one of the same pieces that he had had on the program, and obviously\nhe hadn't planned on doing that, and some critics said that he played it better. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: That could be. He had quite a technique, Tallarico. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So, did you study with him at his home or--? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: At his home. But I started down at Peabody, and then on Saturdays\nI would go to his home. Sometimes switched from Saturdays to Wednesdays. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=600.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They\nwere all good teachers. I had no complaints. And I was lucky I went to\nJuilliard. Well, then it was the Institute of Musical Art. I got\nGladys Mayo, whose husband was an oboist. And she knew exactly what I wanted\nfrom her. And that was the extent of my studies. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What was Mr. [Llewellyn] Wilson like as a--? Did you have a\nlot of contact with him? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I had contact with him as a pupil and a regular in class, but\nnot--. He was jovial. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: He raised his children by himself after his wife died.  \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did he? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh yeah. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: And he didn't get married until they all grew up.  \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, my goodness. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=660.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was the kind of man he was. [Unclear]. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did you know A. Jack Thomas? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No. I met him, but I didn't know him. I knew of him, and I knew\nof his band, too. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: I think he came along later when Ellis was gone. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, practically everybody you talk to has either studied\nwith W. Llewellyn Wilson or A. Jack Thomas. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Those were the teachers. They were the ones that really knew. I\nmean they were, that their musical background was so thorough. And they were\ngood teachers on top of it, because they knew how to get to and get it out of\nthe students. I don't think even the students when it came time to sing that\nthey would have sung any better than when Llewellyn Wilson was conducting. 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I don't want to see another accident here. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No, no, she'll be all right. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: He had seven children? \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Yeah. Twin girls, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=780.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a couple of separate girls and the rest are\nboys I think. The two girls ended up in New York in their awesome little\nrestaurant or whatever they had. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I have been trying very hard to track down some of his\nchildren, and I have not been able to locate one. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well, two of them came to see me in New York. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Yeah, but they live in New York, Ellis. The two older girls\nlive in New York. I didn't know them then, but I knew them after New York. I\nknew Miriam and Ada [phonetic], I knew down here. The boys were too young. I\ndidn't know them because they came along after us. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And one of his boys became a musician and was, I think,\nplaying with Roy McCoy for a while. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I think so. I think so. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I think Mr. McCoy said that he had-- \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Roy McCoy? \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yes. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Well, you know, we grew up together. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I didn't know that. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: You mean \"Tangles\"? \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=840.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I grew up a block away from him, and he married a girl that\ngrew up next door to me. Regina. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, my goodness. She is lovely. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: She was my next-door neighbor. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: He is such a nice person, and she is delightful. I really like\nboth of them very much. He was telling me about finding his first trumpet in a\npawn shop on Eutaw Street and playing for the Afro-American Drum and Bugle Corps\ndown in Baltimore. He is just amazing. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: The first time I saw him he was playing with [unclear] Miles. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, that's when you met him. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: That's the first time I knew him. Because I left here in 1940,\nand he was already with the band then. I had gone to Juilliard. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Those people came to New York, and they met Ellis through me.\nEllis wasn't around. They were younger than Ellis. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=900.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What's the girl's name, [unclear]?  \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yes. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: They knew me, but they didn't know too much about Ellis. Ellis\nwas gone longer than I was. I was gone, but I came back. [Unclear]--was\nforty-four years or forty-eight years later. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Goodness that's quite a hiatus isn't it? [Crosstalk] Did you\never come back to Baltimore for visits? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes, I used to come like, when I was going to school, and I'd\ncome back on the holidays and in the summertime to see my parents. Up until '42\nmy father died, and then I stayed up in New York. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You grew up on Lanvale Street? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. I think I was born on Fremont Avenue, but I was raised on\nLanvale Street, 1519. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=960.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I lived in the 600 block and Roy McCoy lived the sixth lot\ndown. [Crosstalk]. Pennsylvania and Lanvale. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, what did you think of Mr. Wilson as a teacher? \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Me? Well, I loved him. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1020.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[Unclear]. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Now where did you two meet? \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Elementary school. Not the same school. We were doing the same\nplay together, The Pied Piper of Hamelin, and Avon Long was-- \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: --was the Pied Piper. [Crosstalk] \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Where was this production? \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: It was in Baltimore. It was for the public school. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Do you remember which one of the schools it was? \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: All the schools were involved. All the elementary schools were involved. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: [Public schools] 112, 119. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1080.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's how I met Ellis. He played piano, and we were some\nof the kids were running around singing [unclear] with them. [Sings and hums\nsong]. [Unclear].  \n\n\n\nI was about seven years old then. Wasn't I? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: I think I was seven. Then a lot of us was going to junior high\nschool and then high school. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, Avon Long had another brother who was a good singer. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I didn't know him. I didn't know him at all. I met Avon because\nwe went to the same school. I saw him in New York when he was doing Porgy and\nBess. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1140.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he was booked into the Café Society uptown to do the role of Sportin'\nLife, and I played for him there. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Café Society must have been a joy. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Both of them were. Both the uptown one and the downtown. One is\nin the Village, and the other one is at 58th Street, where the Fine Arts Theater\nis now. 128 E. 58th [unclear]. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You were there for years. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well, let's see, I came in '42. Let's see, I left, went to the\nBlue Angels, came back in '45 or '46, and I left there again and went back to\nthe Blue Angels, and I stayed there until '51. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: There were a lot of Baltimore musicians up there. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1200.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, [unclear] a whole bunch of them. I met Eubie [Blake] in New\nYork. And we have letters from him that he wrote to me and wrote to Crystal\n[unclear]. And Cab [Calloway], you know, was from here, naturally. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Cab's daughter [Camay Murphy] called yesterday. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh yeah. Well, she's always got me doing things. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Camay. You know Camay? \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yeah, she's delightful. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Well she called yesterday. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I had to tell you. I started working on this book on music in\nMaryland for Hopkins Press. I mean, it wasn't my idea. I have to tell you that\nright off. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1260.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They wanted one of the faculty members at Peabody. They asked him to\ndo it, and he said he didn't want to do it because it was going to be way too\nmuch work. And he asked them to see if I could do it, and so, I said I would do\nit because I knew it was going to be such an interesting project.  \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Excuse me. Would you come here a minute? [Unclear] \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1320.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had gotten through the history of the symphony and the\nBaltimore Opera and what was going on at Peabody, and I got to the section on\npopular music and what was going in Pennsylvania-- \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: [Unclear] the National [Bohemian] beer commercials? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I told her. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yeah, I thought that was wonderful. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Yeah, I remember being paid for it. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, I do. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You did get paid for it? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, yes. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Good. [Laughter] \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, yes, five dollars. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I was talking to Camay Murphy about how much trouble I was\nhaving tracking down any kind of information on the people who were involved\nwith all those clubs and theaters along Pennsylvania Avenue, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1380.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I told her that\nthere are so few people left who were really involved in all of that, that I\nfelt like somebody ought to get on that and start tracking them down. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well, I tell you a person you can contact, unless you have\nalready. Ruby Glover. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yes. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: She knows just about everything. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yes, she is great. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: But she'll be here a long time. She's a lot younger than we are. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: That's right. She's too young for me. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: I don't mean that. I mean I told Ellis she's younger than we\nare. The only reason she knows me is because I was around longer than Ellis. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: But she knew a lot of the musicians. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Yes. No, I talked to her, and I'm going to go back and talk to\nher again. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. She knows a lot about Pennsylvania Avenue when it was all\nthe clubs and that. Because I used to come down and see them, but then I'd skip\nback to New York. Here for a couple days, and then back to New York. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: But you came down and played every now and then, didn't you? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1440.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. I never played in any of the clubs. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Didn't you? I don't know why I thought you had. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No. I never did. I used to see--right over there--I used to come\nand listen to the guys, but I never played there. I played in New York. And then\nI went to California. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So, you went to California in the '60s, in late '60s? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: '68. I went there with Joe Williams and accompanied him. And I\nstayed there for four years, and I came back to New York in '72. And opened at\nthe Gregory. I stayed there for a while, and then I finally wound up at the\nCarnegie Tavern, and I did that for six a half or seven years. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: You know, it's really interesting. There are so many of the\npeople who are in the jazz field, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1500.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they come with this wonderful background in\nclassical music. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well look, I think that's the most important. They had to have\nthat to compete with the other musicians. Because they were younger than the\nones who were established. Of course, they helped us, showed us the right path\nto go. But you had to have some basic knowledge, because music couldn't just\ndrive on soul. So, we all studied, had to study. If you didn't, you were\nstudying during the time. But most of them had a good classical background,\nwhich is not surprising. Even though it was hard for the parents to get through\nit. But they got through it. My lessons cost sixty cents a week. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1560.0,1620.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Until Fred\nHuber got into it, and then it didn't cost any more. They were free from then\non. Frederick Huber--[unclear]. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: He's been a troublesome one for me. He had his fingers in everything. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah. I know that. I was one of them. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Right. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Because he got--Privette, Conradi, Tallarico. They were involved\nin the recital I gave. He was behind all the concerts. He was behind the thing\nof my doing the Mozart Concerto with the orchestra. And that's the time I played\nthe waltz for Mrs. Roosevelt. What can I tell you. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1620.0,1680.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Frederick R. Hubbard was in\neverything. He really was. [Unclear] But because of him I was able to go to\ndifferent concerts, at the Lyric [Theatre]. Peabody, I could go there. I could\ngo anywhere I wanted to. He made sure I got acquainted with everyone [unclear].\nThat's when I saw Rachmaninoff at the Lyric. [Unclear] \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, that must have been a thrilling experience. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah, it was. I've heard [Walter] Gieseking. I've heard, what's\nhis name, it begins with a G-- \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Gabrilosky [phonetic]? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No, I missed him. I heard [Josef] Hofmann. They won't come to me\nanyhow. I heard most of the good pianists and organists. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1680.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I heard [unclear].\nBecause I was interested to know them also. In fact, Almira Miller [phonetic],\nwho used to rehearse the chorus for the Colored Symphony, who was also a\nteacher. She was the one who started me out or had me go into Emmanuel Christian\nChurch and play for her church in the summer months. And I used to play the\norgan at St. James [Episcopal], which was my parents' church. Then one Sunday,\nLlewellyn [Wilson] decided to sing tenor with our choir, and he sent me to\nBethel to play their service. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What was the woman's name now? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Almira Miller. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1740.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She would play for the chorus and rehearse the\nchorus. And she was a teacher all along. Public school. She was a good teacher.\n[Unclear] Her niece went to school with me [unclear] in 1940. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did she become a musician? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Mathilda [phonetic]? I don't know. But her aunt was a wonderful musician \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: What about your mother? Was your mother a musician as well? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah, she could play. I caught her one day. She was playing. I\nhave perfect pitch, I said, \"Mom, I'll just transpose that.\" \"Excuse me, I--\"\n[unclear]. She would play. My father played violin. She would play piano. My\nuncle's an organist. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1800.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, now his brother sang, so there was all music in the\nfamily. So, I was stuck with it. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Excuse me, Ellis. Wasn't [unclear] your sister a musician, too? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: [Unclear]. I'm just getting them all in. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: There were so many of them, musicians. What's the name--you\ntaught her before it became--? \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Ms. Maccabee [phonetic]? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No, Miss Maccabee, I know that. What's the name? Jukie Woods [phonetic]. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Well, she came, but she came from Ohio. [Unclear] \n\n\n\nLARKINS. Yeah, I know. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: She was not a Baltimorean. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1860.0,1920.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Moron, that is. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, when did you meet Huber? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Let's see. I played for him. Through Dr. Berger [phonetic]. See\nmy father was working for him in his clinic, cancer clinic, and see my father\nwas there, and I went down to play for him. And that's how I met him. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And this was through your father's physician? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah. He wasn't--my father worked there as a janitor. This clinic\nwas a cancer clinic on Charles Street. From what I gather, that's how it\nhappened, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1920.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because next thing I knew I was playing for Frederick Huber, and the\nnext thing I was going to Gilman Country School with Mr. Privette. Because I\ndidn't know what machinations were going on. All I know is I went there. [unclear] \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I've had a really hard time with Huber. He was such a mixed\nbag of--I mean, there are some very dark sides of that man. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: I'm well aware of it. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And I read the book on municipal music that a man named\n[Richard Alan] Disharoon wrote for a PhD dissertation, and he sounded like the\nsavior of Baltimore's musical world, and I started digging around little a bit,\nand I thought--[exclaims]. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, he was busy. He had his fingers in every little choir. That I\ndo know. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=1980.0,2040.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Luckily for me I was one of the prizes, or one of the recipients of the\nprize, anyhow. But I didn't have that much association with him. I'd see him on\noccasion. And he would show up at things at Douglass High School. Or show up at\none lesson. And I was told that I could go to hear any concert that I wanted. So\nI went. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: They described you in a newspaper article of that concert as\nanother Shura Cherkassky. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: It's a funny thing. I have a picture of when we were in the\ncontest [Hecht Bros. Contest for Young Amateur Pianists, 1936]. He won it, you\nknow, and I came in second. And this was at Hecht's [department store]. 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I thought about saving it. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, this looks pretty good indeed. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: And it's not necessarily in chronological order either. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, the only thing that matters is that it's here. Oh, this\nis that wonderful City Paper article. That's great. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Is that the one [unclear]? No, this one. On the back here. No, no. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2160.0,2220.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who do you think was most influential on the way you play? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Teddy Wilson. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Teddy Wilson? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Teddy Wilson and Fats [Waller]. In that order.  \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Excuse me, Ellis. [Unclear] \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, this is great. Peabody Ragtime Ensemble.  \n\n\n\nYour playing is so different, though, from-- \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well, I'm inspired by them. [Unclear] \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2220.0,2280.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have the smoothest, most elegant way of playing of anyone\nI know. It is just--it's like going to heaven. It's wonderful. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: [Unclear]. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, don't you do that.  \n\n\n\nSo you stayed in touch with Shura Cherkassky? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No, I didn't. I didn't, I was surprised. Hearing my name outside\nbecause they said there was a note downstairs, \"Come upstairs,\" from Shura\nCherkassky. And I hadn't seen him since we did that contest when I was eleven\nyears--that was seventeen, sixteen years old. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: And that was at the Hecht Company? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Is he the one that Larry Adler could not stand? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2280.0,2340.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know. I don't think so. I think that Larry Adler couldn't\nstand a lot of people including himself. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: He is a character, too.  \n\n\n\nWhat were you--well, you were playing and performing while you were a student at\nJuilliard too, weren't you? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah. Well, I was playing at that high school [unclear]. I was\nplaying for people to get someone to give me a job. So, they took me downtown to\n44th Street. They tried Chappy Wallace [phonetic], but he had someone in there.\nSo, they took me across the street to [unclear], ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2340.0,2400.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who was coaching, had some\ngroups to rehearse, so I rehearsed with them. And I met these two pageboys from\nNBC that were working, and they came in, and they wanted someone to write out\nthe sheet for [unclear] blues. But they couldn't write it out, so I wrote it\nout. So, two days later, they called the office down there and said that they\nwanted to take me to NBC to meet Billy Moore, who had a trio. He was doing\nremotes in New York. So, that night I went to Studio 8A, and there's Billy Moore\nwith his guitar and his bass player, and he asked me to play. So, I played for\nhim, and I went on the road with Billy Moore, and I went to Cleveland.\n[Unclear]. 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Always did. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2520.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's harder. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Maybe. It seems easy to me. I enjoy it. I get more into it--to\nplay between the voice and instrument--I get a big kick out of it. Solo is all\nright, but I get a big kick out of playing for someone. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: There's nothing in the world more valuable than somebody who\nis a wonderful accompanist. It can make life wonderful. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yeah, well, I guess. Well, you have a good point. It's quite\nnecessary. You can hide a bit, too. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, no. You can't hide from the poor person who's singing with\nyou, though. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: No. Not being out in front as much, but I enjoy that. I like to accompany. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: After Anne Brown--was she the first person you accompanied for? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2580.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, the first person of name, yes. But I used to play, you\nknow, for all the kids. I played for names when I got to New York. [Unclear]. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Who did you enjoy working with most as an accompanist? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Mildred [Bailey], because she's a lot of fun. Joe Williams could\nbe fun at times. Let's see. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Ella [Fitzgerald]? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well, Ella was always a master. There was no sweat at all with\nher. [Unclear]. You'd hear it. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2640.0,2700.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was listening to the Gershwin songs, and that is just a\ngorgeous recording. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well, I enjoyed that. And that was John Hammond. In Baltimore it\nwas Huber and in New York it was Hammond. Because he was the only one. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Well, he had a good eye for talent. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Well, I know. Basie [unclear]. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Was it through Hammond that you got involved with Ella\nFitzgerald, then? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yup. I was playing. I filled in for Ram Ramirez. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2700.0,2760.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was playing\ndownstairs. He was playing upstairs with Mabel Mercer. And so, I had done an\nalbum--piano. John came with Milt Gabler from Decca and two other guys from\nDecca. They were in the room, so they asked me that night, would I like to come\ndo a recording with Ella Fitzgerald. I said sure. So, they said, well, that's\nfine. They said, well, how many men do you want? I said none. I just want room\nto use my left hand, which I did. That's how it came out, just she and I. So, we\ndid two of them that way, and the third one was a tribute to Chick Webb in New\nYork at Carnegie Hall [unclear]. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2760.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's how I got with Ella. That's all I did.\nJust three albums and that was all. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: That's somebody I would have loved to have talked to because I\ngot to be a great fan of Chick Webb.  His music is just wonderful. For somebody\nwith as many problems as he had to be able to triumph over all of that--just incredible. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Great mind. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I can't think of how old he would have been if he was still\nalive, but he was playing in New York before you got up there. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, yeah. He was doing it at the Savoy. He was up there. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2820.0,2880.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And\nChick was there. All three. Chick, [Jimmy] Lunceford, Cab. Tiny Bradshaw. All\nthe band from the Savoy. Home of happy feet, they called it. I was seventeen\nwhen I went up there. But I never went to--I never saw the place. I saw it, but\nI never went in. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: So, you never heard the band live? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Oh, I heard them. I heard the band when they came downtown to do\nthe theater or [unclear]. I started working. I didn't get the chance to get out\nbecause I was working six days a week, so I never got the chance. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Did you get to know him at all? \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Who, Chick? No, I didn't. I never did. \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: I bet the musicians in the band were fabulous. I mean his\nentrances were clean as a whistle, and the rhythm--that driving--I was so\nexcited the first time I heard this. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2880.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So was my brother [unclear]. That's another story about [Teddy]\nWilson. Next to me, he was a nut. I mean, he was always in trouble with\n[unclear], and he used to say, can you try it again, but play with me? [Unclear]\nAnd he would say I want to play the big bass on. That's what he would say. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: Your bass player used to play with Chick Webb. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: Yes, I know. W. Pierce [phonetic]. \n\n\n\nCRYSTAL LARKINS: I was twelve years old when I heard them together in Washington.  \n\n\n\nELIZABETH SCHAAF: Oh, my gosh. How exciting. \n\n\n\nELLIS LARKINS: So, there was music room upstairs. ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=2940.0,3000.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/transcript/38431/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brother Wilson got in one day\nand took me in the music room. You know the first thing he picked up was a tuba?\nAnd then he went to [unclear] and then he played the tuba and then he went to\nstring bass. [Unclear]. He said I want to play the big bass, and that's the\nfirst thing he did after going on tuba for awhile. And he went from that to the\nbass. And that's what he does now. \n\n\n\n[END PART 1] ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=3000.0,3060.0"}]},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/index/51801","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Ellis Larkins oral history, 1998 07-27-2022 13:44 [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/index/51801/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Prettyman and Harris / Anne Wiggins Brown ","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443#t=254.0,587.0"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117443/index/51801/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larkins describes what he remembers of Prettyman, Harris, and their families. 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We're neck and neck and, you know, and, you know, we got to work that hard, play the whole through it and try to contribute and to work really. But we we're working for that. So what do we do? One more danger than we planned through the. But, you know. The. They that. I don't care if you lose your touch. And then I was publicly promoting a road that will kind of create my to go with Julia. Can you walk through? 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When they were putting down their band work, the team could get. You're welcome to Boogie Woogie Gardener. They were heavy, what they want, they want to study them. Yeah, you wouldn't expect that from the private sector. Yeah. 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From the guys in the band. The group. And. When they play well and. Certain things that I on. And with the help, we had three different drummer. All of them will be back where you have been and. We have an article we had to fill that big fat cat and drum roll, and then he got it on one of the topic that can a little bit slow coming off a track, being used to be a drummer for Fat Wallet. And he came with the band. We didn't call them. They got. Crawford, Democrat, who would be would it right, and then made a different mandate and they did that, but that was. We're three. The fans, they don't want to wear. And. Give me. I'm going to rename Obamacare anymore and really put the name of my friend in a. That's my third right group. 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You can bring it right here and they can come","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1438.06,1444.66"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e in and out of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1448.22,1450.69"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e No work, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1453.47,1455.24"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Americade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1459.89,1459.89"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, don't go all the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1462.61,1463.51"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no, not at my answer, no, no quid pro quo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1464.17,1468.85"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Must do you know Jimmy Wales or Jimmy Wales and place Bob's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1471.44,1478.03"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I haven't quite sure, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444#t=1482.41,1486.04"},{"id":"https://streaming.peabody.jhu.edu/collections/1178/collection_resources/44147/file/117444/transcript/30539/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you'd enjoy meeting there is a lovely man and he's a wonderful man. 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